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Re: Audio/Video Cables
#86744 03/25/05 02:40 AM
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Re: Audio/Video Cables
#86745 03/25/05 05:10 AM
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Not to stir the pot here but if Blue Jeans cables work good for everyone, why don't we just tell people to get Canare cables? There are a ton of guys on E-Bay selling the exact same thing as Blue Jeans and selling them cheaper.

There is very little skill involved in stripping a wire and crimping on a connector via the Canare system.


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#86746 03/25/05 05:56 AM
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Because we'd still rather have someone else do it for us? Plus, god knows, we've all had eBay problems...


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Re: Audio/Video Cables
#86747 03/25/05 06:02 AM
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#86748 03/25/05 06:20 AM
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I didn't know you could get canned air shipped. Or maybe it was that you're just not allowed to bring it on airplanes.

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#86749 03/25/05 06:28 AM
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And that'll be all for Peter tonight, folks. Let's give him a big round of applause!


Off to bed, Peter...


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Re: Audio/Video Cables
#86750 03/25/05 09:45 AM
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yeah, and another thing i love is all this gold plated stuff

most components have tin interconnects (at least the ones i've owned) and in theory gold on tin is a bad mix

the component makers use tin to keep costs down and the cable guys use gold to jack the prices up...or is it because gold is a superior conductor...just listen to the difference!

my 3805 has tin binding posts, so i tried finding the old fashioned banana plugs at a radio shack the other day and had to go through the process of elimination with the (nice) kid working there
finally, i said, "maybe they're by the multi-meters"...they were. only problem...the posts aren't spaced the same...doh!
it's back to the shack for the gold ones...or i could just break the bananas in half


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Re: Audio/Video Cables
#86751 03/25/05 12:23 PM
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After some input from members of this forum, I went this route to terminate the bulk RG-6 cable already installed in-wall:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=360-046

www.audioholics.com has a number of great articles and discussion about the facts and myths of cabling and termination.

I went the compression route (v. solder) because I know I can crush things, less sure about my ability to melt metal on things. I'll be putting on RCA terminations for my suboofer cable, and RCA and BNC terminations for my component video cables.

Anywho, two cents from a newbie to this whole world of HT stuff.

Re: Audio/Video Cables
#86752 03/25/05 01:24 PM
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Your theory on gold/Tin not geting along well is "Fact". Most high end electronics require "Gold Plated" connections due to it's improved electrical properties and resistance to oxide build up from the great polluted atmosphere we live in. When soldering to a gold contact you should apply and remove solder "Twice" before making the actual solder connection with your wire or you will have what is called an intermettalic joint which can be very brittle and fail when you least expect. Viewed the Bluejeans web site thought the prices were still too high, going to look at the Acoustic Research cables a bit more or make my own.

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#86753 03/25/05 02:16 PM
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I knew from being somewhat involved in the interconnect business world that gold to tin was not a reliable connection.

You were addressing soldering to gold contacts, do you know how long it takes for gold to tin connections (not soldered, but cable to component) to de-grade?


The Denon 3805 does not have gold interconnects, but the Denon 5900 does.
I guess a $1200 piece of gear (3805) doesn't qualify for high end. And at $2000 the 5900 (now discontinued) does. So in this case, one end needs to be gold and the other end needs to tin.




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