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Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87868 03/31/05 02:53 AM
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This 'Chinglish' making me very no happy to artillery bass purchase.

Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87869 03/31/05 03:02 AM
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Too f**king funny, Tom!
I particulary like the, "...Swans Group put out M-200 through 2 years' hard work," line. At $2/day each for a group of twenty researchers that equates to $20,000 for the R&D budget. That slave labor sure gets your production costs down, eh?

Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87870 03/31/05 03:38 AM
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Great stuff guys!

One thing that I am worried about before plunking the $$ on the Axioms is that I hear all of you saying that I should shoot for the M50ti, which is $700/pr. The B&W 603 S3 is also in that price range, and thus, I dunno if they are in the same level....I apologize for being so hesitant, but I have never heard Axioms in person, and thus my questions.

I think after reading all your reviews, I am starting to narrow it down to the M50ti, 603 S3, or the Swan 5.1....heck, I may even look into some monitor Audio if need be.

Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87871 03/31/05 12:22 PM
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The B&W 603 S3 is also in that price range, and thus, I dunno if they are in the same level



I haven't heard any of those particular speakers either (I have M60s), but I can tell you this an all honesty:

I expected to, and would have paid $3k just for my "mains" because I went into this HT revamp thinking that I was going to get the "dream" speakers I had wanted for twenty years since I first got into this hobby as a teenager.

I think the hardest thing for me to have learned is that there is NOT a hard correlation between price and speaker sound. I still have to remind myself that the Axiom setup was not 3X the cost! My only limitation with these speakers is the small, acoustically-poor room I'm in.

I realize that doesn't help your comparison between so many products, but I really think you're doing yourself a disservice if you assume that a more expensive speaker will necessarily be better. There might be some truth to that within speaker lines, but even that's no given when you take personal taste into account.

Good luck in your quest... you've at least stumbled onto a board where you'll find many helpful people and, though almost all of us own Axioms, we still look out for what's best for you!


::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::
Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87872 03/31/05 01:06 PM
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well said!

and yes, I am amazed at the level of response and help in this board....even more so than in avsforum.com...impressive. I wish there was someone in the miami/ft lauderdale area that had some Axioms so I can stop by and check them up.

I did find a local dealer who has some Monitor Audio, and he was pushing them pretty hard, but I am still not very convinced they are that much better compared to when I listened to them a while back.

Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87873 03/31/05 01:47 PM
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Have you considered the factory outlet Axioms here?

It looks like the wait times are only 2 weeks for what you're looking for and you'll read over and over here that any "blemishes" are very, very minor if the owner can find any at all! Sometimes, the wait times are 6 or 8 weeks, so it might be a good time to jump!

One more bit of advice FWIW that refers to Axiom or any other manufacturer: Speakers can be a long-term investment if you select them right. Unlike electronics, which offer new features every year and tempt you to upgrade/replace, speakers can last you a long, long time if you like their sound and they fit your music/movie needs and the room that they're in. If I was working with a hard ceiling $$ limit, I would consider getting the two "main" speakers that I really liked best, even if it meant that I used a phantom center for a little while (heck, if you're not playing to a crowd, some people prefer a phantom center anyway!). This could enable you to stretch the finances over time a bit, but 6 months or year from now you'll have a better system for it.

Of course, (2) m50s and a VP100 from the factory outlet are only $846 (shipping is included)... well under your price goal. Jeez, maybe you should go for the M60s!

Spending other peoples' money is cool!


::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::
Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87874 03/31/05 03:06 PM
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>>Spending other peoples' money is cool!

I think this is the secret of this board's success. That and the nice people you meet...


M60ti, VP180, QS8, M2ti, EP500, PC-Plus 20-39
M5HP, M40ti, Sierra-1
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Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87875 03/31/05 03:47 PM
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the nice people you meet



would you just shut the hell up!!



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Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87876 03/31/05 04:22 PM
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My only limitation with these speakers is the small, acoustically-poor room I'm in.



The wife made you set them up in the bathroom?

Bren R.

Re: Very Confused...need advice on Speaker upgrade
#87877 03/31/05 05:01 PM
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The speakers you are mulling over are all very good - you'll be happy with any of them, I reckon.
I'll second the suggestion to splurge on your speakers (particularly the mains) and skimp on your electronics. Definitely skimp on your connectors.

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