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Re: OT: Car Buying
#90205 04/12/05 10:29 PM
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She did like the 300 and I didn't like it so much...reminds me of a 'gangster' car.



Exactly. That's what's so cool about it. Like the Cord's of the 1930's.



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#90206 04/12/05 10:37 PM
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You can probably fit more bodies in the back of a Magnum than a 300 though...

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#90207 04/12/05 11:31 PM
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Living in Minnesota, which is renowned for months of snow and ice and really hazardous drivers, I long ago learned the lesson that to invest $30,000 in 4 wheels is a bad idea and a real waste of money. So, I haven't purchased a car from a dealer for a long, long time. If I need wheels, I simply scour the classifieds until I find a private owner selling something I could live with, until some nut on ice smashes into it.

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#90208 04/13/05 03:31 AM
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"...STS ($45,000 to $65,000) and the CTS is flying off lots ($38,000 to $52,000) that people are not REALLY buying their cars "

You know, I had not driven an American car in years, but when we were in Florida a couple of months ago we were upgraded to one of the Cadillac Devilles by a swell guy at the rental counter just because we had flown a certain airline.
It impressed the hell out of me. I had the time of my life driving that beast around Florida for a week. Fast, Quite, Comfortable, handled great for it's size, great stereo. I was shocked.
Does not surprise me at all that they are flying off of the lots.
As for the prettiest new American car, I have to vote for the Chrysler Crossfire. I think that one is just stunning.




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Re: OT: Car Buying
#90209 04/13/05 04:22 AM
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Investment-wise, cars are a horrible deal, unless you get a truly special car, like a Viper Coupe, Ford GT, Shelby Mustang etc. No cars like that anymore, last I can remember was the ZR-1.

I agree w/ the used route. Last car I bought 3 years ago was a 1999 BMW 528i wagon. Bought it from a fleet lease sale thru a broker. 14500 miles and got it for $30K, local dealers had 'em for no less than $42K. I'm only going new because the newer Pilots have a bigger engine. After having my V8 explorer and high torque BMW, I REALLY don't want a weak engine. Plus my wife wants 20+ MPH. Too bad the hybrid Yukon isn't ready yet.

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#90210 04/13/05 04:38 AM
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The reason we're thinking about buying new next time is that we got completely shafted on our used car purchase, and we really really want a warranty. Hint: never buy a Volvo from a Honda dealer. Grr....


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#90211 04/13/05 05:11 AM
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I lucked out because my used car still had a warranty.

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Yup, new or certified pre-owned is the only way I'm going next time. BTW, we got ours through Carfax, and looking at my repair bills, I can see exactly how much good that did.


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#90213 04/13/05 08:30 AM
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Plus my wife wants 20+ MPH


Hell, just get her an old 10-speed from the classifieds....

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#90214 04/13/05 11:17 AM
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One of the dilemmas in the car market IS the gas milage ... the 500 I am currently driving would have been considered a sports sedan 10 years ago. It runs 0-60 in 8 seconds flat ... seats five 6 foot tall men easily (I am 6 feet, 3 inches, and am comfortable in the back seat with the front seat in my normal driving position. I cannot do that in Accord, BMW 3 or 5 series, Camry or Avalan ... Etc...), and only lacks a nav system versus a loaded Audi A-60. It also has almost 20% more interior room than the Audi ...

The 500 is ALSO AVERAGING 24.3 MPG over the first 10,000 miles. I know of no other car which can claim all this for under $30K ...

One would THINK this level of perfomance, Gas mileage and SUV replacing utility would be raved about ... For instance, My Lincoln Aviator had a higher Percentage of highway driving, cost $48,000, had less usable space, and got 13.9 MPG ... and my 2001 BMW 325 was about the same 0-60, was much smaller, 2WD ... and $38,000...

But my SUV buddies think I am suffering without one ...


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