Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions Well color me ignorant!

Hey Ken,

I'm pretty sure as Bren said I had the woofers wired and not tweeters. When I first got the speakers I would turn off the sub and redirect LFE to the mains and they sure provided a lot of bass.

I hardly listened to 2.1 so I guess having the VP150 on most of the time compensated for the fact the tweeters on the M60s werent being used. According to Bob and the manual, it seems I was powering the woofers and tweeters are being fed from the top 2 binding posts.

I sure feel humbled after making such a noobish mistake. And to think I have a lil bit of BOFH in me when my users do retarded things on my servers/network. Guess I can cut em a little more slack now

Well, you should enjoy the change!

So anyone sure which binding posts are tied to which drivers? More precisely, is the mid range driver (5.25") tied to the woofer or tweeter posts? (Sorry, Axiom - I refuse to call a 6.5" driver a "sub woofer" in a three speaker array. That's like Dominos calling their smallest pizza a medium.

Bren R.

Hash, there's no disgrace in the not being familiar with the connecting links on the M60s, since it's a rather useless feature. This has happened here before and although as I recall you're only the third one to admit it, I suspect there were other occasions. What we're still curious about is whether you had(or still have)the speaker wire connected to the top posts or the bottom posts. The bottom posts are connected directly only to the woofers and led someone who had switched from the M50s(only one set of posts)to the M60s about two years ago to be puzzled by the very "muffled" sound of the M60s(woofers rolled off above 200Hz). The top posts are connected directly to the mid and tweeter and not connecting the woofers would have led to a rolloff below the 200Hz crossover which the M60 uses, but having little response below say 100Hz probably would be less noticeable than having little above about 400Hz if only the woofers were connected. What say you?

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The top posts are connected directly to the mid and tweeter

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So that is the internal setup? In that case, yes, I wouldn't think he'd have had just the woofers connected.

Instead he had a very expensive M2.

Bren R.

Thanks for the encouragement John. I had the speaker wire connected to the bottom binding posts. Immediately got home and fired up Eagles DTS (in PCM stereo) and found only the 6.5" woofers firing. Heard absolutely nothing coming out of the mid and tweeter. So then I setup 1 speaker with the bridge connecting binding posts and left the other one alone.

Sure enough when I fired up the speakers, the tweeter and mids were certainly firing! And sorry Bren but they were REALLY, REALLY bright! Hehe just kidding...not trying to start a flame war or anything, but they didnt sound great obviously due to the fact I calibrated the speakers with only the woofers.

Anyways now I'm gonna recalibrate and Im fairly certain I will luv em cus they sounded great WITHOUT the mids and tweeters so I can only assume they will sound much fuller and clearer.

One of the lessons Ive learned in life is that you should always be able to laugh at yourself when making mistakes
I certainly made an honest mistake but its all good cus I'm keeping these speakers! Talk about an upgrade...from the new M30s to M60s for NO COST.

Thank YOU everyone for all your help!

Happy owner of M60s

>>Damn now I feel like a total maroon!

I imagine most of us have either done or thought something just as bad. Everything seems clear and obvious after a year but it wasn't very long ago that I was wondering how the 5.1 got from the DVD to the receiver without having 6 cables...

I thought we were talking about Bi-Wiring not Bi-Amping BrotherBob?

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I imagine most of us have either done or thought something just as bad.

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When I first learned how babies were made, I wondered why the hell anybody would want to do something so gross.

Yea understand, I was just wanted to show hashts where the manual states that the top and bottom binding post drive the different speakers.