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Re: Amplifiers
#94581 05/27/05 12:57 AM
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2x6: thanks!

I think that I am going to wait and see what happens with the new HD TV. If there is no "lip sync" problem, then I am going to wait to upgrade until all of this HDMI/DVI formats/ standards is resloved. If there is a "lip sync" problems, then I will have to make a decision fairly soon.

While I do not like making a "snap" decision, if the "lip sync" is a problem, I am leaning toward a referb of some type for a 1-2 year period of time. That should give enough time for the issues to be resolved (at least I hope). Then, hopefully, I can get something that will last a long, long time.

In the meanwhile, I will continue to research what is available.

Additional comments would be welcome.


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#94582 06/08/05 12:09 AM
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Rat,

Decided to give amps a try. Ordered 2 outlaw monos for fronts today. More later

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#94583 06/08/05 12:49 AM
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Bug, looking forward to hearing your impressions on the new amps.


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#94584 06/08/05 01:18 AM
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Me too.


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Re: Amplifiers
#94585 06/08/05 02:58 AM
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Me three.

LOL!!!


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#94586 06/09/05 11:45 PM
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Well, one amp arrived today. I'll set up for the center speaker test. More later....

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#94587 06/10/05 03:07 AM
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Did they send all three?

I am going to look at your Denon specs and see how they rate the amplifiers. I seem to recall something about only two of the seven are operated at full power at the same time. I need to go back and read that spec again.


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#94588 06/10/05 03:11 AM
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I ordered 2. One came today. One is lost. Hence the center test.

Denon literature says all channels equal power but not 120 watts all channels driven. Outlaw forums members say it tested at 77 watts all channels driven.

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#94589 06/10/05 03:49 AM
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OH NO!

It does sound better!

The Outlaw monoblock is driving the center channel. It sounds clearer...cleaner. At low and higher volumes. 65 to 85 SPL. It's too late at night to play louder or I'll wake the wife. Louder tests in the morning.

Does this mean that I'm going to have to order a third monoblock to cover all 3 fronts. Just another $315.00.
Do you think she'll mind? What excuse for not ordering three in the first place?


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#94590 06/10/05 04:08 AM
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Bernard, the FTC regulations on power ratings(ironically about the only area of audio with a specifically defined federal reg, yet an area that many who don't understand the requirements consider suspicious)don't require the "all channels driven" rating(not really realistic in home use) that some imagine. Unless specifically stated to be with all channels(which some, such as HK, include in their specs), the rating is to be understood as being with two channels driven simultaneously at the full rated power for at least 5 continuous minutes and at whatever impedance, frequency and distortion is specified in the rating.


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