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Re: Thinking of making the jump: what can I expect
#96328 05/26/05 07:08 PM
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Yep since my room is only 16x13x10 (medium-ish) I still chose the VP150 since I always second guess myself. There would be that little voice asking myself if I should have spent the extra $145. (I'm sure you guys know what I mean).

I think as others have stated, the VP150 is for larger rooms and plays a little louder (not sure on clarity but I assume so since it has an extra mid and tweeter).
Go with what you can afford. I am quite happy with my setup.

Re: Thinking of making the jump: what can I expect
#96329 05/27/05 03:31 AM
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Okay, so I took the time tonight to break down 4 distinct purchase directions to see what others think. They include varying up the package to get different costs. Unfortunately, all but one of them are over my $1000 budget, so obviously option one has the greatest WAF...but option 2 is only $85 over so there's a potential for convincing. So now, decisions, decisions:

Option 1:
New M50ti $700
New VP 100 $240
Package price: $940

Option 2
New M50ti $700
New VP 150 $385
Package price: $1085

Option 3
Outlet Store M60ti (4 week wait) $810
Outlet Store VP150 (5 week wait) $346.50
Package Price: $1156.50

Option 4
New M60 ti $900
New VP100 $240
Package Price $1140

As you can see, option 3 gets me, in terms of moving up the ladder, the highest level of speakers...but that comes at a price... a month long wait. I listen to significantly more music than movies and don't have the largest of rooms (I'm an apartment hopper, so room sizes change yearly), so I'm wondering if the VP100 is not only enough, but perhaps the better option in terms of sticking to my budget. I don't know.

Looking at the above, would any Axiom owners like to weigh in on what they might do considering my constraints? Is there a clear cut winner? I'm guessing, to a degree, they're all winning options...they are, after all, new Axiom set-ups. Just looking for opinions. Thanks again.

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#96330 05/27/05 03:54 AM
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CS, you may have used the term "new" just as a separation from the outlet speakers, but note that the outlet speakers are also "new", but possibly with a slight cosmetic defect. As it is, I'd suggest Option 4, but from the outlet in view of your tight budget. Although there're no guarantees, many who've ordered through the outlet have been pleasantly surprised when they were shipped in a shorter than estimated time(e.g. shorter than the 4 and 3 weeks shown for cherry M60s and VP100s).


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#96331 05/27/05 03:58 AM
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Again, I will suggest option 5: buy a pair of M60s and keep your current center.

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Now that I read it again. Option 5 as just indicated. Order the vp150 later when your ready for another move.

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#96333 05/27/05 04:13 AM
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Yeah, sorry about the "new" designation...I guess I should have qualified "new" vs "new/outlet"...that probably would have been more accurate. I'll have to go back and work out the numbers for option 4, but done through the outlet store.

As for getting the M60's and keeping the center, maybe I'm too new to this, but I've done tons of reading and talked a lot to local sellers, etc and have always consistently heard that you don't want to mix and match for the front 3. Sub, surrounds can be mixed, but sonically, you want the front 3 to match. Wouldn't it be detrimental to have speakers that have completely different builds, different drivers, different tweeters, and drastically different specs (in terms of sensitivity) across the front? Again, I may be over thinking that...but if I am, then every person I've talked to is over thinking it because that seems to be a universal recommendation...to at least match up the fronts. Is that not necessarily as important as I think it is? Just curious...that would obviously be a more economical choice, but I'd like to make sure it's the right choice.

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#96334 05/27/05 04:15 AM
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"...primary listening is music...".
Option 5

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#96335 05/27/05 04:35 AM
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CS, possibly Mark(BigWill) and Doug(bug)have in mind different versions of Option 5. Yes, it's desirable to have the front three speakers as similar as possible(one of the reasons for my M60/M2 suggestion), but if necessary, especially with music, you can temporarily use no center speaker and have the mains form a "phantom" center.


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#96336 05/27/05 10:55 AM
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In reply to:

......you can temporarily use no center speaker and have the mains form a "phantom" center.




While saving money for the purchase of a similar center at a later date in the future!

I like this option, espcially since music is my primary use of the system.


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Re: Thinking of making the jump: what can I expect
#96337 05/27/05 12:41 PM
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>>Wouldn't it be detrimental to have speakers that have completely different builds, different drivers, different tweeters, and drastically different specs (in terms of sensitivity) across the front? Again, I may be over thinking that...but if I am, then every person I've talked to is over thinking it because that seems to be a universal recommendation...

Matching the mains and center is always important, but the important thing is to match the sound... matching the brand makes that easier but it's not the only way to go.

If you're mixing great mains with a crappy center that would be a problem, but the B&W and Axiom brands both aim for the same sound so I don't think you would have a problem living with the B&W center for a while.

In case it helps, I ran with matched fronts and mismatched surrounds for a while and still found that listening to music in anything but stereo didn't sound right. It wasn't until I put M2s (then later QS8s) in as surrounds that I enjoyed listening to music in 5.1.

I think the B&W center will be fine with the Axioms, particularly for HT (you're probably going to want to do serious music listening in 2.0 or 2.1 anyways) -- I wouldn't rush into replacing the center for a while.

Again, we're not saying that matching center and mains isn't important, just that they probably *will* match pretty well even though they are from different mfgs.


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