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Re: M80ti 4 ohms the rest 8 ohms
#97964 06/06/05 04:19 PM
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Big Brother...
Thanks for the link. Very good info and some nice pics of DK to boot.
Bray...
The room is pretty small right now. It is about 10 ft x13 ft.with 9 ft ceiling. That's why I was originally thinking the 60's. But the wife and I are now considering changing things around and that would put me in a room that is approx. 20 x 13 with a two story cathedral
ceiling and a very open floor plan to the rest of th house. I want HT and Music seperated for now. The family is always in front of the tv and I prefer listening to my music. My tastes run towards everything, but mostly Jazz, Classical and Adult Alternative. Why do I hate that designation? Adult Alternative ugh! I was ready to go for Spendor se5 or B&W 703 or Paradigm Ref Studio100's before finding this site through a review on one of the sites I was doing my research on.
Thanks for the warm welcomes. This seems like a great group of people here.
oz


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Re: M80ti 4 ohms the rest 8 ohms
#97965 06/06/05 04:36 PM
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With your current room size the M60s would be plenty. with your possible larger room size the M60s would be plenty.
I havent heard the M80s, but I understand that they sound very much like the M60s. I have M60s in a rather large room and I am completely happy with them.
If you move things in the bigger space how far would your listening area be from the speakers?


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Axiom 60's have been compared to 703's. I like my 80's because I can put the Denon on pure direct and get spectacular sound, even in different connected rooms.

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#97967 06/06/05 04:51 PM
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Hi Oz. I'm a little confused (it's not your fault, confusion is my normal state ). You are looking for a pair of Axioms for stereo listening in the larger room (20x13)? Or, will your stereo listening be in the smaller room (10x13x9)? Will you be using a subwoofer for your stereo listening?

In your first post you said "I have been thinking if I go multi channel I would probably go with the M80ti and the M22ti..." Could you expand a little on this? Would this multi channel system be for music only (CDs/SACDs/DVD-As) or would you be using the same system for movies/TV as well?

You also said you'd be using "a vintage HK high current unit" to drive the stereo system. I'm assuming this is a stereo unit. What receiver preamp/amp would you be using to drive the system if you do go multi channel?

The answers to these questions will help us steer you toward the speakers that will do the job for you.

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This seems like a great group of people here.


Thanks for the compliment, but we can be just as obnoxious as any other group of forum members. Hang around long enough and you'll see.




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Re: M80ti 4 ohms the rest 8 ohms
#97968 06/06/05 05:32 PM
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If you move things in the bigger space how far would your listening area be from the speakers?

Bray
The trick here is we're not sure about the switch. If we do it the larger room offers more flexibility in distance to listening area. I think it would be10 to 12 ft from the speakers. I think you may be right that the 60's would do fine. I was just wondering about the very open floor plan to the rest of the house. Wouldn't mind saving the three hundred dollars anyway.
Oz


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#97969 06/06/05 06:16 PM
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I think the 60's will be great for stereo listen. Full range and plenty of bass. They will work well in a larger room as well.

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#97970 06/06/05 06:17 PM
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Hey Jack

Right now I am interested in music listening only. When I mentioned multi channel I was referring to SACD or DVDA. I know many people are of the opinion that the speakers for this application should not include " surround" type speakers. They prefer more of a full range balanced sound which is why I mention the 22's with the 80's. From everything I have read here it seems like I'll want a sub whether i get the 60's or the 80's . So even for just stereo listening I will probably add a sub but I won't be abel to do all this right away. I have to save my allowance if you know what I mean.
Oh yeah and the current power supply is a HK-667ax or axi or something like that. I think it's from the mid eighties. I'm not really sure and I'm at work so I can't look right now. I'm sure this will be replaced sometime in the future. I just hope it's not too soon. HT is going to be a completely different room. I actually have a system made up of Polk Audio 6600 satellites and a 10 inch Polk woofer and HK 300 series AV reciever. I recently replaced the fronts in that system with borrowed Vienna Acoustic Bach and was very impressed with the improvement. Whaich now has me thinking about returning the borrowed Vienna's and getting a pair of M22's or M2's for that system as well. But that's a whole nuther subject. I was very impressed with how the system sounded with the Vienna's as the fronts with the Polk sub and satellites in both HT and 3 channel stereo. I seem to be rambling now so I have probably really confused you. I know I'm confused.
oz

I really appreciate all the interested parties and the valuable feedback


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Re: M80ti 4 ohms the rest 8 ohms
#97971 06/06/05 06:29 PM
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You say the 60's would be fine, yet I noticed in you profile that you own the 80's. What up wit dat? Do you just want to be king of the hill? 8>) All kidding aside what was the deciding factor to make you go with the 80's?
oz


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Re: M80ti 4 ohms the rest 8 ohms
#97972 06/06/05 10:07 PM
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I followed this forum for several months before ordering. At the same time I was auditioning all the speakers I could get to in 150 mile radius.

Axiom and members of this forum recommended EPIC 60 350. Knowing how many movies we watched I upped the sub to the 500. No mistakes made. A great system.

The more I read comments from 80 owners, the more I wanted to know the difference. I ordered the 80's and did a side by side in my home. The 80's won. They are WAY more speaker than I need. But they sound better ....IMHO

That said. The 60's are great speakers. I would recommend them to anyone.

There is a whole lot to be said about in home audition. I now want to know how much difference an amp makes. I may have to order one on a 30 day trial to find out.

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Re: M80ti 4 ohms the rest 8 ohms
#97973 06/06/05 11:43 PM
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Yeah, for SACD and DVD-A music listening, it is generally recommended that the surrounds be direct radiating speakers like the M22s. You wouldn't be losing much by going with the QS series speakers for surrounds, and if you were going to be using this system for movies as well, I would recommend going in that direction. But, since it's a music only system, the 22s would work very well.

As far as the mains are concerned, either the 60s or 80s will suffice. Since you are going to be using a sub, you are limited only by your budget, and the "I want them" factor.


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