Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners EP350 vs SVS PB-12isd vs HSU STF-3 vs Outlaw LFM-1

Alright, I finally have decided that I am only going to consider four subwoofers:

Axiom EP350
SVS PB-12-isd
HSU STF-3
Outlaw Audio LFM-1

All these would have a final price shipped around $650. Spec wise pretty similar subs all 12 inchers. What are your experiences with these subs and for $650 which sub would be the clear winner of the four. I just need to end my misery of deciding on a sub. Buying the M60's, VP150, and QS8 was not this hard in deciding.

It may be hard to find someone with experience will all of these subs. For me it was about wanting all my speakers to have the same finish, Mansfieldssss with black grills.

Can't help you much accept to say the Outlaw's sub is an Hsu design.

looks like a much different hsu design...both ports on the bottom...interesting...
i love my hsu stf 2..however it does clip sometimes.. partly my fault as it isnt calibrated yet....but great bass, if i was in your posistion, id wait and get an ep500 thats what im craving now...the stf-2 just doesnt have the "punch" that i want

i have the same setup with the 350 and i do not yearn for another sub. i heard the outlaw and it was very good and you will be very happy if you choose it. but i wanted my sub to match my system (colorwise)and after having the 350 i can say for me it is just as good as the outlaw.
Jake

You would love the EP500.

The matching sub had a high WAF.

I can only speak to the Outlaw, I'm very happy with it, it provies a lot of punch and musicality. Although Mr. Hsu help design it, it is not the same design as the Hsu subs, but it is very similar. Some people seem to think it is somehow "bad" that it's designed by Mr. Hsu. I guess they assume if it's designed by him, why not buy a Hsu sub? The Outlaw sub was, last time I checked, a little cheaper that the Hsu sub that is closely resembles.

I do not speak against the Outlaw. Quite the contrary. I think is was wise of Outlaw to invite Dr Hsu's design input. The fact that is cheaper is a plus. IMHO.

I am also very happy with the Outlaw LFM-1. As well as performing well beyond my needs sonicly it makes and excellent end table. I got it last summer when it was offered with free shipping. Shipping is now free with the addition of an outlaw sub cable added to the order.

All the other speakers are boston cherry and I am going to be putting the sub in the corner where the loveseat and sofa don't connect. Might put a plant on top of it to add to the room shaking effect. Therefore having a boston cherry sub is not that important since not many people are going to see it. The outlaw does look very attractive price-to-spec wise. I don't think i will need a $1000 sub like the EP500. I'm looking for an accurate but still can feel the bass at all times of various media types, music and movies.

The room is going to be 12 x 18 so a fairly moderately sized room.