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Hi all, well its been about over a year now and still happy with my Axiom speakers. I have made a few changes to my original set-up and not sure what to do next. I love my system in HT, but in music I wish the sound was warmer and more dynamic or had a depth to it. Based on $300 low end and with some time $600 top end what change should I make next to get this depth and warmth? My current system is as follows....

Axiom M22ti's Front
Axiom VP-150 Center
Axiom QS8's suround
VMPS Original sub with all bells and whistles
Yamaha RX-V2300 6.1 Reciever
Rotel RB-980BX Amp Bridged mono to the sub
Cheap Toshiba DVD player
Sony PS2

maybe a nice denon cd/dvd player?

maybe a new SVS or HSU sub?

or, try and sell the 22's, and use that money so you can afford the M60's?

bigjohn

lol I bought the VMPS sub over svs and hsu. The VMPS sub is killer and is in no way the problem here. I would love to upgrade to M60's someday. Just can not afford to in the new market, and nobody sells their M60's :-)

This is sort of "out of the box" but have you thought about some room treatments?

I don't think upgrading your receiver or components is going to change yuor sound that much (opinions vary on this topic). Maybe your room has some imperfections that could be fixed with some new drapes, carpet, sound absorbing panels, etc.

At the very least, maybe you coudl use the money to invest in a set up disc and an SPL meter (if you don't already have one). This will really help with the soudstage and depth issues.

Let us know what you decide.

I have a SPL meter I just got yesterday, and just ran a 10hz-300hz Test Disc someone sent me a link to, to burn. It spikes all over the place, with a few noticeable peaks. Biggest problem exists around 42hz where it peaked at 97db and by 50hz bottomed out at 72db. Another low point is at 120hz and the rest goes back and forth between 84db and 93bd. So where do we go from here? Is it time for an EQ? To be honest I have been a Car Audio man for many years and run an EQ in that system, so an EQ is the first to come to mind here. Whatcha think?

Your graph sounds almost exactly like mine. I got a Behringer Feedback Killer and used it as an EQ and it worked a treat! Takes some tweaking and tricks, but it did a lot to flatten out my response.

So that's one way you can consider going...

Seeing the key words "Warmer" and "Depth" The thought that comes to mind is M50. The key word for M50 is "Pleasant"
It also comes with the 30 day in-home trial, and unless I'm mistaken, if you don't like it and wish to trade-up, you can send it back with free shipping upon purchase of M60 or M80.

The M50 may be more relaxed or laid-back than the M22, but it still has a strong family resemblance to the rest of the Axiom line, so it will mate up quite well with the rest of your speakers. And the price is right: $630 USD thru Factory outlet.

At any rate, for music it would certainly be warmer than your M22s, and if you prefer your music without a sub, as many do, then the M50s will surely add depth in that area as well.

Just a thought.
Rich.

How big is your room (L/W/H) and how is it finished ? That would help us come up with ideas...

If the room is fairly big I would second the M50s. If not, room treatments, measuring/setup etc...

The M22s should have plenty of dynamics in a medium sized room but they won't fill up a larger room like the 50s would.

I feel bad, I neglected our M40 friends; If you would prefer an even warmer sound, kinda like the ol' tube days, and save even a few more bucks, then perhaps the M40 would fill the bill.

The M40 was a very popular Axiom speaker a few years back but just dosen't get the credit it deserves these days. The Average Axiom Customer has shifted from wanting a slightly laid-back from neutral,more comfortable speaker, to a slightly more foreward more revealing design. The customer though still has a choice! The 40s and 50s are alive and well and waiting for those folks who still appreciate those attributes!

Just another thought.
Rich.

My room is 17'X 15' X 8' with a 6 foot opening on one wall into the kitchen. The wall that my front stage has to go on in this house is onlt about 7.5 feet long as one side has the swing of the front door, and the other side has a hallway opening. My entertainment stand is 5 feet wide, so I have very little play room with my front stage speakers, which is a drag.