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Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
#248205 02/21/09 07:33 PM
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hoping one of you can help me decide which sub to keep. i'm asking because:

1) I'm still pretty much an audio noob
2) I don't think I have great ears for judging sub quality
3) I never heard of Tannoy until it was given to me

Here's the dilemma.

I was given a 10in Tannoy sub that I could use to replace my old 8in Klipsch. They both sound pretty nice to me, which do you think is the best match for my Axioms?

My Klipsch - KSW 100 (1996)

frequency response 34Hz-120Hz±3dB
max acoustic output 101dB SPL
maximum acoustic output 101dB SPL
low pass crossover Continuously variable from 40-120Hz, 24dB/octave slope above 120Hz
subwoofer K-1048-K 8" (20.32cm) Fiber-composite cone
phase Switchable 0 or 180 degrees
enclosure material Medium density fiberboard construction (MDF)
enclosure type Bass reflex via side-mounted port
inputs 2) Line level RCA phono jacks, 1) Line level LFE (unfiltered) RCA phono jack and 2) High level speaker terminals
outputs 2) Line level RCA phono jacks (fixed 40Hz or 80Hz HP - 6dB/octave slope), 2) High level speaker terminals (fixed 100Hz HP - 6dB/octave slope)
auto power on 2 second ON delay, 15 minute OFF delay

My Tannoy - Arena (2007?)

PERFORMANCE
Output Power 300W RMS
Low Frequency Response 29Hz (-6dB)
Limit For Usable Output 16Hz
Input 2 x line level phono
Input Filter 2nd order low pass, 50Hz – 150Hz (-6dB)
Auto Mute After approximately 12 mins., in absence
of input signal
DRIVE UNIT
Driver Type 250mm (10”)
CONSTRUCTION
Enclosure Type Closed box
Enclosure Volume 20.0 litre (0.7 cu.ft.)
Additional Features Phase control, Crossover defeat switch for
LFE operation, Soft limiting to avoid overload,
LF extension control
Enclosure Dimensions (excluding feet) 445 x 350 x 210mm
(17.51 x 13.78 x 8.26”)
Enclosure Weight 13kg (28.7lbs)
Mains Voltage 120V nominal AC ~ 60Hz,
230V nominal AC ~50Hz
Mains Fuse 120V – T3.15AL/ 250V, 230V – T1.6AL/ 250V
Maximum Power Consumption 416VA

My Axioms

VP150
M22
QS8

I use the system 50/50 gaming/movies.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Re: Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
Willy #248211 02/21/09 07:45 PM
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If it was given to you, why not use both, you can never have to much sub bass. Or, are you saying you have to make a choice?


You don't mention what type of amp is in the Klipsch, but the 10" Tannoy goes lower, which is what you want for HT. Actualy, neither one of them go really that low, but they both should be ok for music.

I'd use both at the same time.


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SirQuack #248214 02/21/09 07:54 PM
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klipsch amp: 100w continuous into 4 ohms

i could use both, but it would be overkill for my space i think...and just another thing for me to fool with \:\)

> Tannoy goes lower, which is what you want for HT

ah, good to know. thx

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Re: Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
Willy #248216 02/21/09 08:30 PM
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there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to low bass. if you calibrate the subs to the same SPL as the other speakers, 2 will help even out the frequency response in the room, that is if they are opposite each other in the room. All you have to do is hook the "line out" on one sub, to the "line in" on the other sub, or use a splitter at the receiver "sub out" jack, and have two seperate cables.


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Re: Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
SirQuack #248300 02/22/09 04:51 AM
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+1 on using both for the reasons already outlined. Unless I missed something, it dosn't looke like the Tannoy goes lower. It lists a -6db point of 29Hz vs a -3db point of 34Hz for the Klipsh. They are probably pretty close in how low they go.


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Re: Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
fredk #248344 02/22/09 03:06 PM
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Hi Willy

Just some FYI, Tannoy, only next to B&W is the most popular speaker in recording studios in England, and probably the rest of the world. They are a very popular high end speaker manufacturer, again most popular in the UK.

I own a pair of Tannoy C6 bookshelf speakers I got cheap back in the early 90's (because they were white). They sound great, really clean and a very flat freq. resp.

I will admit, Tannoy isn't one of the first speaker companies I think of when you metion subwoofers. But based on my experience with the company, it should be pretty good.

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Re: Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
Worfzara #331667 12/15/10 11:29 PM
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ok I'm ready to get a new sub. I've been using the tannoy mentioned above but I need something for myself this xmas.

so, what should I get under $500 or so?

I was looking at HSU and SVS which are around $500 but also people see to like BIC subs like the one below which as cheap as it is seems to have better specs than I have now?

so, should I spend $500+ or save some money and get the BIC F12?

* Design: Front-firing 12-inch, 475-watt peak powered subwoofer
* Frequency Response: 25Hz - 200Hz
* Sensitivity: 90dB
* Drivers: 12-inch injection molded woofer with heavy duty surround
* Magnetic Shielding: Yes
* Gold-Plated Terminals:Yes
* Recommended Power: Built-in Amplifier Power: 475 watts Dynamic Peak, 150 watts RMS continuous
* Impedance: 8 ohms
* Dimensions: 17 x 14-3/4 x 17-1/4 inches (HxWxD)
* Weight: 42 pounds each
* Warranty: 5 years parts and labor

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Wid #331674 12/16/10 12:42 AM
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Hsu, SVS and eD are well-respected brands. I wouldn't hesitate to go with one of those in your price range. Personally, I'd get the Hsu VTF-2 Mk 3 for $568 including shipping.


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Re: Sub: Klipsch vs Tannoy
tomtuttle #331697 12/16/10 03:49 AM
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I would be willing to bet that any of the Hsu, eD or SVS subs will sound better than the Bic. The question is will they sound X number of dollars better to you?


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