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DENON 3910 and below black levels???
#132251 03/17/06 09:54 PM
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Unfortunately I am currently having to hook up my Denon 3910 via compnent video until I get the new sony display; however, I noticed when calibrating the black levels using the THX test patterns, unlike my Denon 200, the "drop shadow" or below black portion of the THX test was not visible as it was w/the 2200. Is this a deffective unit or will it simply just "do better" using DVI output on this particular model.

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#132252 03/17/06 10:03 PM
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Not sure about the Denon's, but I thought I recalled on AVS that many said many of their models would not pass BTB. My Panny S97S, will not either when used with my Z2 projector.


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#132253 03/17/06 10:24 PM
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i can't really offer much to this other than to direct you towards the DVD Player Benchmark Shootout. It appears from that the 3910 does pass the "Blacker-than-Black" test.


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#132254 03/17/06 10:46 PM
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I read the shootout article on the 3910, but saw no mention of the "blacker than black"???

Thanks again for any info.


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#132255 03/17/06 11:34 PM
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The Denon 3910 can be adjusted in the setup to go below black levels.


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#132256 03/18/06 03:50 AM
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#132257 03/18/06 04:01 AM
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To late, we lost Cucamonga yesterday


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#132258 03/18/06 07:48 AM
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unlike my Denon 200, the "drop shadow" or below black portion of the THX test was not visible as it was w/the 2200. Is this a deffective unit or will it simply just "do better" using DVI output on this particular model.


Waitaminute... hold the phone...

Your "NTSC pedestal" (7.5 IRE) and 0 IRE (blacker than black) both look the same, and you're wondering if you have a defective unit?

Uh, that's HOW you set up a display... they should be identical... that's how the PLUGE works. you start with the brightness high, so all three bars (0, 7.5, 10 IRE) are visible, then turn down the brightness or black level until the 7.5 IRE bar is as dark as the 0 IRE bar but you can still make out the 10IRE bar. Pedestal is set.

Then you move to the top side... look at the white square in the bottom left (well, 2nd from left)... adjust white level or contrast up until this "blooms" or bleeds into the squares beside, now turn it back until it doesn't. Luminence is set.

Then if you have a Blue Only switch.. turn it on, and adjust saturation until the outer two tall blue bars match the shorter bars below them (in full colour, the bars are grey and blue). Once they match, saturation is set.

With blue only still on, adjust the hue control until the inner two blue bars (magenta and cyan in full colour) match exactly. When they do, hue is set and you're good to go.

If you don't have a blue only switch... you'll need practice to get the last two measurements right.

Remember to turn off Blue Only.

Bren R.



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#132259 03/18/06 04:56 PM
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To late, we lost Cucamonga yesterday




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Re: DENON 3910 and below black levels???
#132260 03/18/06 06:17 PM
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BrenR- Yes, that is exactly what I did w/DVE and THX. My point is that regardless of what level I turn up or down the brightness, I can NEVER see the 0 IRE bar which I could see if the brightness was too high on the 2200.

I'm hoping once I go DVI/HDMI to the SXRD, this will not matter.


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