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How much Sub?
#199056 03/04/08 10:10 PM
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... and why or why not axiom??

OK folks, if I can get Monday off I'm going for a little roadtrip north.

So, when I'm evaluating the M22 + sub vs M60, which sub should it be?

My system will be for music first and then 5.1 down the road so I am most interested in good performance for music listening.

Having grown up in the stereo world, I have a hard time getting my head around paying 500+ for a sub.

Maybe I need to listen to the 125 175 and 350???

The only movie I own is the LOTR trilogy. Any suggestions which movie and which scene(s) would give a sub a good workout?

One thing I have noticed is that a lot of folks here go with other subs. On casual reading it looks like companies like svs offer a lot more bang for the buck (I know, all reviews are subjective).

Off to work I go...

P.S. Looking forward to listening to all that base on Monday. Wonder if I can find a local resaurant that serves up bass to get me in the mood. ;\)


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Re: How much Sub?
fredk #199057 03/04/08 10:15 PM
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I would have the new 350 on your list, my initial impression is very positive, thunderous performance.


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How big is the room/ Not that it matters a whole lot the EP350v3, EP500 and 600 should be the main ones to listen to.

You could also check out the new Paradigm DSP subs. I just had one for the weekend and compared the smaller DSP-3100 to the Ep350V3 with good results. The EP350 was the stronger of the 2 subs but the little 3100 did almost as good a job for music, but it couldnt pressurize the room enough for HT use. I suspect the 3200 with its 12 in. driver would be very comparable.

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Re: How much Sub?
jakewash #199063 03/04/08 10:49 PM
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A good scene from LOTR is when they cut the ring off of the big scary guys hand.

A big "WHOOOOOOSH" extends over the battle field and then his helmet hits the ground with a loud "THUD"

Very cool sounding on my m80's and ep500.


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Re: How much Sub?
terzaghi #199071 03/04/08 11:57 PM
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That's the scene I have been using while checking out various subs as well as the U-571 depth charge scene.


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Re: How much Sub?
terzaghi #199125 03/05/08 10:08 AM
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Well, the 600 is out of the question due to that other WAF (wallet approval factor). My room is only 12 x 20 x 8, not tiny, but not that big.

The image of M22s with am ep600 seems a little bizzare (if M22s is the route I go). That combo would certainly catch peoples attention though.

It is interesting that nobody suggested the ep175. Not enough oomph?

I hadn't even thought about that scene. I was thinking about the cave Troll scene in Moria because there is a lot of noise and thumping going on.


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Re: How much Sub?
fredk #199127 03/05/08 10:21 AM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk

It is interesting that nobody suggested the ep175. Not enough oomph?



Have a listen to one when you are there and let us know what you think of the EP175. But you are correct in you assumption.

I have had the chance recently to hear the EP350v2 and it isn't much better, if at all, than my 12 yr old D-Box sub, so I would guess the 175 is even less impressive.


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Re: How much Sub?
jakewash #199131 03/05/08 10:42 AM
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Interesting. The 350v2 is supposed to be a lot better than the old 350.


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That's the V3 is better than the V2. The V2 is the older one.


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Re: How much Sub?
jakewash #199146 03/05/08 01:42 PM
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surely the V2 was better than the V1 as well!

I'd say go with the ep350 (or 500 if you can swing it.)

If you order from the factory outlet the ep350 is aprox. $680 i think.

The 350 would be great for music now, and then 5.1 HT later (according to everything I have been hearing about it.)


-David
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