I don't want to influence your opinion Rich so I won't remark about how the M5s sound more real than the the M2s regardless of subwooferage. It took about 25 hours of playing the M5s before I could say they sound better.

Mike, I'm very happy for you. I should point out you weren't comparing the M50v4 with the M5s. I think your M50s are v2 or v3. I still really like the M50v4 and wish I could switch any Axiom speaker with a dedicated mid to the low def sound of the M50 at times.

I'll also just repeat that the M50 and M3 sound like 480p and the M2 and M5 like 720p. The M100 is 1080p and the active LFRs are 4K. smile