I took the plunge and install IE7 last night. It reminds me of....
FIREFOX!
Anyone else using it yet. This is my first day of real use, but so far so good.
I'm using it. No issues so far. Just a little adjustment getting used to the new locations of buttons. I tried Firefox several times, but there was always some website I visit that it wouldn't display correctly, or as I thought it should look, anyway. I wanted to like it, but that always made me return to IE.
C.V.
I tried IE7 while it was in beta a while back, but I'm sticking with Firefox. I'll use IE7 if I have to, though, such as when a lazy web coder doesn't bother to code for any other browser platform than their own.
I don't mind the laziness. If one browser has an overwhelming majority of users, it should be up to the other browsers to be able to replicate the results. To put the burden on the coders is cheap.
C.V.
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I don't mind the laziness. If one browser has an overwhelming majority of users, it should be up to the other browsers to be able to replicate the results. To put the burden on the coders is cheap.
So the one with the largest install base writes the rules, screw the W3C?
Wow, what a world that would be... We'd all speak Mandarin, attend a Christian church (at least on Easter & Christmas)and cheer for Real Madrid...
Bren R.
well one outta three ain't bad
Ok, it's not the coders, it's their bosses.
Well, in a democracy, the majority DOES make the rules. Ha ha, but I get what you're saying. I don't think Microsoft should be answerable to no one. I just wish Firefox had displayed the websites better, that's all.
C.V.
Well, if MS opened ActiveX a tad, then maybe Firefox could. Or if people stopped using ActiveX...
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Well, if MS opened ActiveX a tad, then maybe Firefox could. Or if people stopped using ActiveX...
ActiveX is a pox on the arse of the internet in many ways, not the least of which is the "let me install a control through which I can run rampant on your computer" portion of the POS. I can only imaging their reasoning: "Hmm, first we'll take our second-rate, security-hole riddled browser and integrate it into the OS shell. Then, we'll install a mechanism through which anyone can install a control that allows them to do just about anything they want on the remote computer. We'll prompt the user, asking if they REALLY, TRULY want to install the control, but we know that will be as effective as a year-old condom in the wallet of a teenaged boy." GRRRR. The notion that the tech world should follow MicroSquishs' lead instead of expecting the 'Squish to follow INDUSTRY STANDARDS is ludicrous. In my opinion coders who code only for IE are "learn FrontPage in a day" charlatans who should have majored in something other than Medieval Languages in college.
LightninJoe, I'm in Portland right now!
Not that that's significant. I just noticed that's your location.
C.V.
Visiting? Or are you from the area?
Just visiting a friend. I'm usually in the Tri-Cities, Washington. Not amazingly far away, but far enough away that it's only the occasional visit that brings me here.
C.V.
But, but... I loved reading the Niebelunglied in Middle High German.
I've used IE7 since beta1 thru RC2. I like it. That said its not fun to run on a computer with only 512MB RAM. I also use FFox but I like IE7 a little more. I like the polish of IE7 and the way it renders pages over FFox by a tad. But then I like the look and feel of Vista and IE7 is definitely designed to be in that style. FFox reminds me of the fugly X desktops you get with most Linux distros (KDE, Gnome, doesn't matter).
You've heard of Firefox themes, yes?
yup, tried many too
For years, Microsoft IE has long "allowed" and displayed html code that was not in W3C standards. Microsoft being Microsoft (the majority), has always had a tendency to do what they wanted.
Back when Netscape was still strong and had a significant portion of the market, I used to code websites. YES, as a coder, I always checked to make sure that my site worked and looked right in both browsers. I consider not doing this to be the fault of the coder.
Firefox is much like Netscape (same kernal) in that is represents and displays html exact according to W3C standards.
I use Firefox for everything possible because it is more secure. Only for certain sites that require some Active X controls will I use Microsoft IE (only sites I trust).
As a Network Engineer I have to manage so many applications that require ActiveX. It was a great idea really, but like anything else, abused.