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Posted By: RickF Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 09:25 PM
Has anybody ever done a faux finish on an inside wall, and if so, what degree of difficulty is the job and can it be done just using different shades of paint?

I'm not finding much info about the procedure on the internet.
Posted By: DaveG Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 09:55 PM
Check for information at your local home center.
Posted By: michael_d Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 10:25 PM
There are several different techniques. I tried my hand at the wrinkled plastic method based on the beautiful job another forum poster did in his HT room. Needless to say, I suck at Faux and have no words of wisdom to share. I messed it up so bad I decided to roll over it with the dark base coat I used. After two coats the lines were still there, but it looked pretty cool with the big screw ups covered and just a hint of the lighter Faux lines and smudges. Everyone who sees it tells me how good it looks – ha-ha…. If they only knew…. I call it “Mike’s Mistake”.

At any rate, do a search and this feller’s picture should come up. I can’t for the life of me remember his name, but he did post some more photos not very long ago of his second HT using the same technique.
Posted By: jakewash Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 10:30 PM
I think it was faux suede look if that helps.
Posted By: RickF Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 10:32 PM
Mike, wasn't that 'Newf' who had the beautiful faux finish in his room?

I was also thinking you did the finish also but after reading your reply I now know the rest of the story. Our local Home Depot isn't much help, last time my wife went to get a gallon of paint mixed the guy had to give it four tries before he got it right ... said he normally didn't work in the paint department.
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 10:46 PM
We did a sponge paint thing in the entryway of our last house with (I think) 4 colors of paint. Rolled-on the lightest shade to cover, then did 3 layers of sponge application with the other colors. I think we thinned the sponged paint quite a bit. You need a natural sponge. It came out pretty good, but it was a pain in the arse. Neither me nor the missus has felt compelled to repeat that experiment in the last ten years. I'll advise you to test the bejeezus out of the entire process before doing a whole wall.
Posted By: HomeDad Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 10:50 PM
I believe Home Depot has a whole kit for it. They also have rollers and sponges precisely for faux applications. we did a couple walls in our house and are very pleased with the results, but as Tom says it takes a couple practice shots on small sections of wall to get the desired results.
Posted By: doormat Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 11:16 PM
You sure you guys aren't neo-nazis?
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 11:19 PM
We did a sponge thing in our bedroom on the moss green walls, gave it a leather look, pretty cool.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/12/08 11:25 PM
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We did a sponge thing in our bedroom


;\) ;\) know what I mean?
Posted By: terzaghi Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/13/08 12:33 AM
I painted for about 6 years during high school and parts of college. Started out doing apartments so of course no faux finishes there (just plain 'ol white.) In the end, I ended up doing new construction painting and remodels of some very nice homes, and as a result experimented with a few faux finishes. Many of these were in the $500,000 to $1,000,000 range (the houses not the finishes ;\) ) which is a LOT in oklahoma. I found a general trend that the more expensive the home, the more faux finishes they wanted. One guy even wanted each room a different color, and the ceiling had to be tinted the color of the room.... MY clothes looked like a rainbow after that one!

Anyway, enough nonsense... I have two favorites that I will mention

The faux suede from sherwin williams is really cool.

link here:
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/do_it_yo...ques/softsuede/

It is really easy, just time consuming. The instructions say to roll on a coat, then come back and brush overlapping "X's" all over the wall.

Instead of dipping the brush 5 million times, we rolled the walls once and let it dry. Then we came back and rolled a second time, with someone comming behind and "X'ing" the wet just rolled paint. You have to be careful not get to far ahead of the guy X'ing if you are the one rolling though. this way is a lot easier but still very time consuming and tedious. The look is very nice in the end. I have done some tan(typical suede color), pale yellow, green, and red versions. I think out of all of these the suede color was my favorite, and the red was my least favorite (allthough it was still pretty cool looking). The green and yellow looked pretty good too.


Another really cool (but even more time consuming) finish is venetian plaster by behr.
link here : http://www.behr.com/behrx/expert/activity.jsp?aid=616&subnav=interior&leftNav=noSteps

This is actually put on with a mud knife instead of a paintbrush. IT is the consistency of runny silly putty. You basically need to paint the wall the same shade as the plaster (but make it quite a bit lighter.) Then you go through and randomly smear the stuff on the wall (thinly)with no rhyme or reason. be sure you are leaving wall showing through inbetween your smears. Then you come back and skim coat the entire wall with a thin coating. Then you come back and skim a clear coat over the entire wall. Then you come back and 'burnish' it by rubbing your mud knife over the entire wall in a circular motion. This takes a VERY long time to do. It is also a little difficult to get everything to match if you have different people doing the troweling. The first time we did this we had 4 guys, each on there own wall... and each wall came out different because we each had our own techniques... Also once you start a wall you pretty much have to finish it, beacause if you come back later you will not be able to match what you were doing.

I reccomend trying it in a closet or on some spare drywall to see how it looks first.

The end result is VERY cool, and the walls are slick to the touch.

I have never been a fan of sponge finishes because if you don't do it right it looks way too 'busy'

When I buy a house I plan on doing venetian plaster in the kitchen, and suede on the office or bedroom.
Sorry this was so long!


The problem with both of these finishes is that if you decide to paint it a regular color later you pretty much have to re-skim the wall with drywall mud and sand it. the reason being that the venetian plaster is so slick, and the suede is a little rough to the touch because they have some sand in it.
Posted By: davidsch Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/13/08 06:31 PM
I did the Sherwin-Williams suede look in my listening room. I used their recommended three step method that terzaghi mentioned though. It took two full days for a 13 x 17 foot room. I will attempt to post a picture or two.

David







I guess that you can't see the finish very well!
Posted By: jakewash Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/13/08 07:21 PM
From what we can see it looks good.

I think I might be doing something like that in the very near future.

Any problems with the sub so close to the TV? There have been a few posts recently about the subs causing issues on the TV when the subs start working hard.
Posted By: RickF Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/13/08 08:14 PM
Thanks for all of the suggestions, tips and heads up regarding the finish ... looks like it may more than what I'm ready to bargain for but I may go ahead and give it try.

Great links Terghazi and very nice room David!
Posted By: davidsch Re: Faux finish questions... - 02/14/08 06:45 PM
I thought that I posted my reply yesterday but I do not see it so here goes again.

Jason - I have no issues with the sub being that close to the TV.
Rick - Thanks for the kind words. I am pleased with the results even if it was a bit of a pain to do. It looks better in person than in the picture.
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