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Posted By: Ken.C Rant: Megadeth - 03/07/09 04:53 PM
So I'm curious: everyone seems to hate Metallica for Load and Reload (a couple of albums I rather like) because they "abandoned their roots" or some such. But what about Megadeth? Risk, which came out a year or two later, is similar in the root-abandoning territory. It's a pretty crummy album, includes what seems to be a found-Jesus type song (!), and a bunch of not quite metal. But Mustaine's not vilified to the same extent as Metallica. Leaving aside the Napster argument, anyone know why? Anyone actually agree with me about Risk? Anyone even heard of the album?
Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/07/09 07:24 PM
Because I think Metallica made a specific attempt to get into the mainstream music scene, which arguably began with the black album. I think that put off many of their hard-core fans. I haven't heard that particular Megadeth album, but I'll guess it didn't specifically try mainstream, just failed as a proper Megadeth album?
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/07/09 07:38 PM
It was pretty darn mainstream. That and weird.
Posted By: StuntGibbon Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/08/09 03:46 AM
Yes, Risk was horrible. (And so is United Abominations)
Posted By: Zarak Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/08/09 12:23 PM
I'd say cause Metallica is a bigger and better known band among the general public. They are more mainstream. I hear Metallica on local radio all the time, but rarely/never hear Megadeth. Other than Peace Sells and Symphony of Destruction (which I like both of, btw), I don't know that I can think of any Megadeth songs off the top of my head, but I could write you a whole list of Metallica songs.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/08/09 03:55 PM
Hey, wasn't the lead singer of Megadeth a former member of Metallica? I watched a Megadeth concert on HDNET over the weekend and I have to say it was pretty good.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/08/09 03:56 PM
Waaaay back when, yeah. They kicked him out because he was too much of a junkie. This was before their first album. Don't know if he ever really forgave them, until maybe recently.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 12:20 AM
I didn't realize until I saw the concert but he is actually a decent guitar player. I noticed the lead guitarist was playing what looked like a very nice 7 string Ibanez guitar.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 01:30 AM
Dave Mustaine is a very, very good guitarist--much better playing than singing!
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 01:46 AM
Indeed! I came away impressed. It was enough for me to watch the entire concert which usually I do not do on HDNET. I was not familiar with most of the songs besides the really popular stuff.
Posted By: myrison Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 12:21 PM
Agreed, Mustaine is an awesome guitarist. His lyrics sometimes give me pause, but I do love the way the guy plays.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 04:49 PM
Was Mustaine the original lead guitarist for Metallica? Who was in the band at the time when he was around.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 04:52 PM
Yup. Hetfield, Ulrich, and Burton were the other members.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/09/09 05:14 PM
If you have HDNET they will be showing the concert again on March 22nd and 23rd. The concert series is called Megadeth Blood in the Water: Live in San Diego.
Posted By: Murph Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/10/09 01:08 PM
I remember when Risk came out and I remember me and my friends abandoning it even before it was cool to talk about bands that were uncool because they were blatantly trying to go mainstream.

With very few exceptions, I generally cringe every time I hear an artist saying that they have 'matured'. To me that equates to that they have run out of originality and have become just another boring radio band.
Posted By: Official Ninja Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/10/09 04:21 PM
I'm not familiar with the Risk album, did it come out in the late 90s, early 2000's when Metal was nearly unheard of? Even I hardly listened to metal at the time, as I was getting married and having kids.

Find a copy of Count down to Extinction remastered by Mobile Fidelity, it's really good!
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/10/09 04:22 PM
Yup, it was exactly that time period.
Posted By: Official Ninja Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/10/09 04:24 PM
Then I think that is the best answer. At that time no one cared about Metal. These days its coming back. The hip-hop days are getting old and Guitar Hero and Rock Band video games have the kids listening to rock / metal again.
Posted By: BrenR Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/10/09 04:49 PM
 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Anyone even heard of the album?
I'd quit caring about Megadeth after Peace Sells... I vaguely have a notion that Rust in Peace and the one with Symphony of Destruction on it existed. But I never really liked much Megadeth. Mustaine always came off as whiny to me, and after butchering Anarchy in the UK (after I'd forgiven them for doing the same to Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots" years earlier) I just really never cared about them. Same with Metallica's Kill 'Em All, even as a teen I thought they were immature acts/albums.

Bren R.
Posted By: Murph Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/11/09 11:56 AM
Agreed, I liked Peace sells but had trouble dealing Mustaine's voice. He was karaoke talent at best.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/11/09 11:57 AM
Listen Dawg. For me.... it was just aw - ight.....man....just aw - ight.
Posted By: Murph Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/11/09 12:48 PM
Mark, didn't we convince you to stop watching your new hero on Trailer Park Boys last year ???

EDIT: removed picture of J-Rock, noticed some profane sign language

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Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/11/09 01:11 PM
Dude, you must not watch Idol! This is the guy I was riffing on.....

Posted By: Adrian Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/11/09 01:15 PM
Aw...ight, dawg. We git it know.
Posted By: Murph Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/11/09 01:28 PM
Sorry, no Idol for me. I PVR about 5-6 shows a week and the rest is random flipping through the guide for a half hour tops before I get sick of commercials and do something else. The odd time something will catch my attention but it's almost never reality shows as TV is about escaping reality for me.
Posted By: Adrian Re: Rant: Megadeth - 03/12/09 01:38 AM
Last time I watched more than 5 min of "Idol" was about 3 yrs ago. The only show I will not miss is "24" and the rest of TV time is basically 'hit-and-miss' whatever looks aw-ight at the moment...maybe "King of Queens" or "Two and a Half Men" or a game.
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