Think it's time to check out

Posted by: MatManhasgone

Think it's time to check out - 01/08/18 07:53 AM

When I first got my Axiom speakers I was blown away by how they sounded. I found this website to be insightful and as the posters changed, I still found it fun to read.

I learned quite a bit and thank Serenity and Craigsub for that. I got lots of help from others like bridgman and socketman. Thanks for it all

But the level and direction of conversation has sadly dropped below the level to keep me here, so I must sadly say adieu.
Posted by: AAAA

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/08/18 08:33 AM

All the best Matt. Hope to see you back.
Posted by: BBIBH

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/08/18 11:26 AM

I agree it has changed recently, but as the longest regular on this board it always seems to go through phases. I have found that the conversation changes, and the people along with it.

Sorry to see you go, and I have also dropped from site for long periods of time.

My current issue is that nobody at Axiom is returning my emails...which I find a total lack of professionalism, particularly when I get one from them, and then they disappear!
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/08/18 10:00 PM

This place is kinda like a marriage ,we have just run out of shit to talk about. We have all evolved together over the years and learned and grown and we just dont need the help we once needed. We dont get much fresh meat in here anymore, our newbies have grown up.I have really lost my zest for making any improvements or upgrades, and dont really have the extra cash i had before i bought my house . I am more than happy with what i have though one day Emotiva will have the Atmos ready and i will probably upgrade over a long period of time to soften the blow. I notice things are not what they used to be at the Emotiva forum either, more idle chit chat than any realy questions or concerns and even AVS is on the slow side from what i have seen in the past couple of years. There just doesnt seem to be any wow products ,like its all been done. Sorry to see ya go matt ,maybe we will see you back one day.
Posted by: nickbuol

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/09/18 09:33 AM

Yeah, I come here every day (sometimes multiple times a day), but rarely post anymore. I was never one of the "BS-ers" (which I mean in the most positive way) like many of the "Top Posters" and so my post count will never reach that high.

For me, I've been "settled" with my Axiom setup for a while now. My theater room hasn't changed in over a year as well (Had to check my theater build thread, and my last post was in June 2016)...

I've also been super busy doing graphics/photo work for people on AVS that want custom printed acoustical panels for their rooms. I do a lot of them for free in hopes that it draws enough work that people that want to pay for my work see me as the "best" option. Unfortunately, the amount of paying people is pretty small. One busy week that I had, I was working for about $1/hour and spent a huge amount of time on things.

Throw into the mix that I have other projects that I am trying to get done around the house, and that my boss was so kind as to give me a whole additional IT support client/contract to manage (without any additional pay, and with me traveling twice a month just for that client on top of my existing travels), and I am just feeling worn out by the time it comes to posting online.
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/09/18 11:17 PM

Ditto here. I'm pretty well settled here & am not going with Atmos as there would be too much surgery required to my house.

The crew is applying the final coat on my HG Rosewood VP160 & it will ship next week.

It will be a V4 vs my present vinyl V3 but I did it only for aesthetic reasons.

BTW - Axiom is now using Canada Post for shipping (at least domestically)...

TAM
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/09/18 11:26 PM

I find it odd they are using canada post since they have a weight limit of 66lbs i cant even ship my amp since it is 88lbs
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 12:50 AM

That's what they sent me as shipping labels. The VP160 weighs the most but doesn't break the 66 lb limit I guess. It is about 45 lbs without the box...

TAM
Posted by: bridgman

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 04:05 AM

What I'm seeing is that as third-party shipping SW gets better vendors are able to use multiple shippers to optimize for each shipment.

AFAIK it used to be that the main source of shipping SW was the courier companies themselves, which pretty much guaranteed lock-in.
Posted by: BBIBH

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 09:45 AM

Originally Posted By exlabdriver

BTW - Axiom is now using Canada Post for shipping (at least domestically)...
TAM


My Axiom delivery this morning was by Fedex...
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 01:50 PM

Interesting - they are probably using the most cost effective method depending on the shipment requirements...

TAM
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 02:13 PM

My first 800v4 shipped via FedEx. The second just got shipped via FedEx today as well.
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 09:19 PM

I could be wrong but i think the 800's may be slightly over 66lbs. talk about a random number. guess fedex highers all the big tough burly guys that can handle the heat.
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By Socketman
I could be wrong but i think the 800's may be slightly over 66lbs. talk about a random number.


They're 260 lbs. The number appears random to you because you don't know the underlying probability distribution.
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 10:15 PM

About 130 each shipping weight. 110 each to move around the shack...

TAM
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 10:27 PM

Yup. 260 for two.
Posted by: 2x6spds

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/10/18 11:54 PM

That's too bad. I enjoyed your posts, Mr. Mojo.

I don't know that the level of discourse has fallen, certainly the volume of posts has dwindled substantially. Your posts certainly livened the place.
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 12:05 AM

matt man is leaving not mojo sadly LOL
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 12:37 AM

Yeah Phil, I enjoy your posts too about your silly tube amps, Emerald Physics "speakers", and Khartago amps with 120mF capacitance; and you know I am envious of all those toys. smile

And even though Richard ribs me, I know he secretly loves the 'nad-mass I'm gonna have on Monday with my "Customized by Ian" EP800v4NME which TAM desperately wants to upgrade to along with M5HPs and Craig is dreaming of not only because of the Gut Punch mode but also the continuously variable phase knob which would bring him a lot of twiddling joy as he consumes the Penthouse Forum letters in front of the Netflix fireplace on his new TV and listens to them crackle on his M100s which replaced his $10K Legacy Audio speakers.

Ahahahahaha...I love these boards. They are so non-linear!
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 01:36 AM

Just finished watching the three Ironman Blu Rays again. Lots of tickling but thankfully no slamming.

My M22s are heading back next week to Axiom for some TLC. M5s will not be in the mix...

TAM
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 08:21 AM

What's up with the M22s, TAM?
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 02:58 PM

The HG finish has crazed or whatever. They've never seen this before.

Suspect that it was the brutal cold weather a couple of winters ago that was adversely affecting the paint booth at that time.

Anyway, they are going to fix them one way or another...

TAM
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 03:08 PM

A perfect time for v4. The tweetage is so much more superior!
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 04:44 PM

I'm way ahead of you. In my HT setup, my M22s are V4s as well as my QS8s & my new VP160.

Only my EP800s are V3s & they aren't going to change...

TAM
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 05:00 PM

Will you upgrade them when the subwoofer app comes out?
Posted by: exlabdriver

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 06:59 PM

How is that (an App) supposed to work?

As a general rule, I'm very shy about screwing around with software upgrades when the device works just fine now...

TAM
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 07:16 PM

Ian will send you a new amp. The amp will have Axiom Air in it. Using your smart phone or a web browser, you will be able to control the gain and various other parameters of each sub. For example, there will be 'nad tickling, gut punching, chest thumping and rib cracking modes.
Posted by: 2x6spds

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/11/18 09:35 PM

Oh, Mr. Mojo, that was truly excellent!

Yes, failures, I've had a few. The Khartagos, well,I have T Amps I like better. (Obviously that silly solid state amp suffered from too many "mili fahradts") Khartago gone now.

Emerald Physics EP 2.8s? the pair I auditioned was spectacular. The pair I bought, well, I like my M22Tis better. EPs gone now.

But, my tube amps are winners! 😎
Posted by: AAAA

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/13/18 10:12 PM

Best to all!
Posted by: craigsub

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/13/18 10:17 PM

Matman ... Hopefully, you will come back. Maybe we need to start posting pictures of half naked women again. That might help.
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/14/18 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By craigsub
Maybe we need to start posting pictures of half naked women again.


When did "we" do that? Is that why Sonicfox is no longer around? Or maybe she finally bought a soundbar and after hearing it, decided life without "real" speakers is not worth living.
Posted by: brwsaw

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/14/18 02:19 AM

I hope she looked into the one I suggested.
Posted by: craigsub

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/14/18 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By Mojo
Originally Posted By craigsub
Maybe we need to start posting pictures of half naked women again.


When did "we" do that? Is that why Sonicfox is no longer around? Or maybe she finally bought a soundbar and after hearing it, decided life without "real" speakers is not worth living.


Ten to Fifteen years ago, every forum was jumping with traffic. There were "hot chick" threads, adult beverage threads, GTG's ... it was a lot of fun. No one took the hot chick threads seriously.

In today's Politically correct world, fun is forbidden, and far too many people are looking for reasons to be offended.
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/14/18 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By craigsub
In today's Politically correct world, fun is forbidden, and far too many people are looking for reasons to be offended.


Everyone got old fast. Except me. I'm living the teen years I didn't have. smile
Posted by: BBIBH

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/15/18 08:49 AM

Originally Posted By craigsub

In today's Politically correct world, fun is forbidden, and far too many people are looking for reasons to be offended.


I am not sure that is what has driven Matt away. I suspect it is the way threads tend to spiral away from the topic.

I do know that in my case when I see a thread become less interesting, I simply stop reading. I post very infrequently - as you can see from me registering in 2002 and the low numbers of posts I make!

Perhaps some people are less tolerant.
Posted by: craigsub

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/15/18 10:09 AM

Mike, my comments were about the macro view of the forums, not Matman's reason for leaving.

Hopefully, he is just on vacation, not gone.
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/15/18 08:49 PM

I take full responsibility for bobblehead leaving. I littered these boards with all kinds of immature comments and very little audio talk. I brought out the worst in some people. It won't happen again. Back to the serious Mojo some of you knew a decade ago.
Posted by: brwsaw

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/15/18 10:28 PM

It can't be a cold and univiting forum either.
The more the merrier so long as its legit and we all share a similar passion.
I'm not for haters or whiners nor forum nudity etc. Fun. Music. The odd poke at another member, you know, the good stuff.
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/15/18 11:03 PM

FWIW being funny and being antagonistic are not the same thing. I tend to be easily bruised and a total asshole all at the same time, i am very passionate smile People have given 2x6speeds a hard ride at times about his tube amps etc where as i think all forms of audio are relevant,whatever makes you happy not how you get there. We have gone through ups and downs around here ,such is the human condition.
Posted by: AAAA

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 07:04 AM

Originally Posted By Mojo
I take full responsibility for bobblehead leaving. I littered these boards with all kinds of immature comments and very little audio talk. I brought out the worst in some people. It won't happen again. Back to the serious Mojo some of you knew a decade ago.


People don't know you're kidding if they cant see your face. smile Text has a way of being cruel without that intention.

I would love to read about people's setups, trials and aha moments. It's kind of selfish, but the only reason I am still here is the occasional anecdote where someone's experience links to something science related in a very tangential way. Sometimes they don't really realize they have shared some pretty valuable experience that is helping affirm or deny my own knowledge. In my opinion it's what a hobbyist audio forum should be. Sharing, building, bettering.

Richard, a complete stranger except for our relation on the forum, sent me personal property to test, relate and share with everyone. This was a great experience, and not possible without the forum. smile There is almost no point in being here if learning from one another becomes scarce.
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 03:48 PM

Here is one for ya trevor. And for whats it worth i dont believe in magic wire lifters or fancy interconnects just so you know where my head is at.

For a while now i have felt that my right speaker was louder than my left speaker. I tried all the usual stuff, moved the speakers, switched channels on amp etc and i wrote it off to being more deaf in the left ear than the right. I have 2 amps, XPA 3 and XPA 5 and they are side by side on a entertainment unit. One day i decided to put my front L +R onto the XPA 3 , after that i realized that the left channel now seemed to stand out more im like wtf. So time went by and i have sold my XPA 3 so i had to move the L+R back the the XPA 5 yesterday. Well as im reconnecting things it occurs to me that one speaker wire is longer than the other and i had swapped them since the XPA 3 is closer to one speaker than the other and the speaker wires did not reach. The speaker wire was only 18g so i went to my cable closet and got out my 14g speaker wire and cut 2 equal length ,tinned the wires and put on my banana plugs and hooked everything up to the XPA 5, and now everything seems perfectly balanced. Have i just been schooled after 30 plus years of audio. This was never a problem in my previous home and only started in this house which is where i installed the 18 gauge wire ,whereas the old house i had 14g. Never to old to learn i guess.
Posted by: AAAA

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 05:45 PM

I probably have left over blue jeans belden #10. How long are your runs?
Posted by: Ya_basta

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By Mojo
Originally Posted By craigsub
Maybe we need to start posting pictures of half naked women again.


When did "we" do that?


Mojo, buddy, you can't tell me you forget Teri's thread that I started! Speaking of my beloved bestie Teri, she's living a spoiled life of worldwide travel through her successful travel agency business. Here's one example of her exclusive trips available (warning - she may be in a bikini at some point in the video).
Posted by: Mojo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 06:58 PM

Cam! You're back! Is Teri the one who was a fixture on your avatar in days gone by?
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By Serenity_now
I probably have left over blue jeans belden #10. How long are your runs?


Thanks for the offer, i had some good stuff in the closet just being frugal. I really have to take a look at the other stuff see if i can see and issue with it.
Posted by: Gr8_White_North

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/16/18 09:36 PM

So i sat in my favorite chair and i interrogated the offending piece of wire and i couldnt see anything that raised concern. So while i was staring at the ends where i soldered i realized something. I use Nakamichi banana plugs and it has 2 set screws. When i made these wires up i only bared and soldered enough of the wire to make contact with the lower screw the upper screw compressed the plastic casing which i discovered had crushed the wire and broke the strands. As mgbpuff pointed out the fluke was of no use since even one strand would provide continuity,the real test would have been a voltage drop test but i found the trouble before having to get that carried away. I see this far too often when diagnosing at work where some clown has shoved his big ass canadian tire test lite through the casing of a wire and then left it unprotected and corrosion sets in. At the very least a dab of silicon will prevent this.

Anywho , mystery solved and lesson learned.
Posted by: brendo

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/17/18 12:12 AM

I thank you all for the knowledge I've learned in the last few years.
As we get to the point of marginal improvements in our set ups its somewhat logical to become bored and find other means of entertainment rousing or bragging. Having fun

This forum tends to have more knowledgeable folk than most of the fanboys bragging their entry level stuff is the best in sum places. Let alone the threads on complete room builds and speaker builds {thank you for your most recent ones Trevor}

On a plus note these techs change relatively quick so newer tricks and such stay relevant.
Posted by: Ya_basta

Re: Think it's time to check out - 01/17/18 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By Mojo
Cam! You're back! Is Teri the one who was a fixture on your avatar in days gone by?


Hmmmmm, I don't recall that. Maybe you're mistaking her for Che smile ?