It has been so fun to see pictures slowly popping up with people's posts - we'd love to see more! If you have pictures but no where to host them, email them to me and I'll put them up for you. Cartoons fine, too!
Does this include badly drawn recreations of my basement?
My guess is that anyone's 2 year old may draw a basement better than i did. Perhaps i'll stick to the digicam.
I"ll do a panorama today of the new speaker setup for all to see but you have to promise not to laugh at our furniture or colour choices
Amie, I'd like to post a picture of my system. Does the pic have to be a certain pixel size?
Just let me know and I'll send you a pic of a nice Axiom set-up. Mine. ; )
Thanks.
Hey Big_L (and big winner!);
Just send it through to me at 300 x 300 and we'll make it fit! Looking forward to seeing it!
Are you saying my panorama pic won't fit because its too large?
That my SETUP is simply TOO LARGE to get a small picture of??!!
Well thank you for the nice compliment
Okay, Big_L's pic is up! Who's next?
Axiom Wall-o-Fame
Oh geez, now i'm just shamed by my petty 20" General Electric tv.
I can't send you a single pic, you wouldn't be able to see the surrounds!
Ok, i've got a digicam at home this week. I'll see if i can't take a better res pic of my main stuff. Gotta clean up the damn basement first...
No need to tidy! We need the full experience! LOL.
Duff's picture has been added to the mix, too. Check it out. Who's next?
Ah heck.
After seeing Duff's setup i'm sure i can beat that for shoddy tidyness (jus kiddin Duff).
Ok then, the contest is on.
Who can send in photos of the cleanest, sweetest Axiom setup?
And who can send in photos of the most student-like, "M22s make great clothes hangers", i don't-know-where-my-jewel-cases-have-gone setup?
Note how Big_L has pretty yellow flowers on the speakers. That's very organic.
I'd never put anything on my speakers
if I could afford light, I'd take pictures of our listening room, theatre style, Chess!
I thought the flowers were a nice touch. However, it is often hard to judge the size of a pictured item without anything in the picture to use as a size guide. So, i handed Amie my photos today and i included 2 dogs of various sizes (28lbs and 130lbs) and for empirical reference, the tv is a whopping 20".
Plus, i added the new placement for my EP350 so ppl can get a gauge of just how large it is compared to the M60s.
Okay, Chesseroo, your pics are up as are Duff's . . . that sub looks great in Cherry, doesn't it?? Love it! Is Ravi really bailing on Axiom assignment?!
Amie
bailing? NO WAY! I need a digital camera and enough light so I can show it!!!
Well, maybe those 50 cent light bulbs from zellers will come in handy, and my girlfriend who's a photographer...
The EP350 in cherry is superb. It is larger than my ottoman. Actually had trouble finding a place for it in the basement. Thank heaven it sounds pretty decent as you see it in the picture. Took some mild tweaking but surprisingly not alot.
You can see just how large it is compared to the M60s. Quite formidable i say.
Funny that this just occurred to me, will Alan, Joe and Ian/Amie (or other Axiom fanatic staff) submit your home picture setups?
I don't know why i have this preconceived notion that Ian's setup will have about 6 pairs of M80s in front, back, surrounds and possibly on the ceiling with a 50" plasma tv and real movie theare chairs.
B_Man is in with his pic - check it out!
As to our set-up . . . as soon as we get a wide-angled lens for the TV, we'll be in!
Hi amie...
2 questions for ya...
1) where do we get to see these pictures
2) I would like to recice the newsletter... how do i get i it
Thanks
The pics are posted at
Axiom Wall-O-Fame. The newsletter sign up is in the bottom half of the home page . . . you can see the archives at
Archives. Hope that helps!
Alrighty, then, SECfootballFAN's pic is up - and he fit a very, very wide TV in. (Hey, small aside - are all Axiom owners dog people? No iguana fans in the mix?) I'll try to get us up next - hate to be behind Ravi on this one!
Amie! I AM a dog person, too!! no iguanas, sorry!
and i WILL get pics of my setup as soon as I get my girlfriend to take the pics. she won't lend me her camera, just like I won't lend my friend my M22's!!
Three new pics up - this is very fun! Anyone else got any pics to enter on our little wall?
Hi Amie,
Nice setup you guys have ... by the way what brand are the amps & rptv ...
Joe's setup takes the cake, just word for it wow...
Joe is my hero.
Dear lord did you see that setup?
I love the chairs.
For those of you who are watching, SEC_Football Fan and Chesseroo just sent updated Home Theater Pics, and Pinoy sent his new Epic 80 set up through. Check it out!
Wow
Seeing all this really nice hifi gear really makes me wish I had an income so I could do some spending of my own.
SEC Football Fan's TV would look great in my 12ft deep room...
Feel free to throw these into the picture directory.
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgAAAKkXyKBU52gy!Q3x6MKcbd7OroycQT7flDW7SAVWjIci0LqiYJc2Qc7kWjqzrD14KXpi!3UaIy6Az4b8E8rWdfr*1mZo8j2BtEqHPe!bsV6pj77j6A/IMG_0347.jpg?dc=4675391839077497356
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgAAAKsXUqFU52gy!Q3x6IUOchd2FCRJb*qY1FhIUFO6mqn7swBFuysJOReGMnq4rW9wNAbiuwPaPpcYm*GckHOQ00FzQZkQhWf2ZgPHOEjk45CyA4WQ7A/IMG_0349.jpg?dc=4675391839081278518
It's my previous apartment. I had the speakers for about a month prior to leaving so I didn't bother mounting the QS8's. Now that I have the new house, I'll be taking pictures eventually. I need to break down and order set of M2's to round out my 7.1 theater first though...
A Denon AVR-4802 and a DVD-3800 have been added since as well.
New pics up! www.axiomaudio.com/wallofame.html
while we all look at the pictures, i'm somewhat confused. okay, if you sell speakers, you're sure to have speakers in your house. if a person sold cars, they're sure to have a new car in their driveway. but here's where my confusion lies: i sell replacement appliance parts, but i dont have parts in my family room...so why do i have axioms? guess i better tell the wife i'm adding some belts, pumps and motors scattered around before i can submit pictures..
dan
The pics just made me want to do one thing....add a big screen TV to my setup!
Zarak,
No, No, No! Go for the
front projection!!!
Semi-on, how did you post those urls so they are linked?
i Have new pics thats look alot better. got rid of those stupod tiles below speakers, if you wanna update it amie i will send you one.
2x6,
I'm a UBB code master! OK, so I just stuck [ URL ] link [ /url ] tags around the link, minus the spaces between the brackets and the letters 'URL'. Most UBB based boards do this automagically, but for some reason Axiom's site doesn't.
Other helpful tags, some of which may or may not be supported:
[ i ][ /i ] - italicize
[ b ][ /b ] - bold
[ IMG ][ /IMG] - image
[ QUOTE ][ /QUOTE ] - those fun block quotes you've undoubtedly seen me do
[ u ][ /u ] - underline
[ s ][ /s ] - strikethrough
[ CODE ][ /CODE ] - insert code
[ List ][ * ]list item[ /* ][ /list ] - bulleted lists
Those are the biggies.
A more comprehensive list of the code is available
here.
But... Do not abuse the "poll" code or text colors!!! LOL
Very nice, 2x6. However, you are DQ because they aren't Axioms. LOL
Btw, what are those super-tweeters? I remember you once posted about them, but forgot what they were.
Ah, you only think they're not Axioms ... let's say they are first order blood relations, brothers to the M60.
The center channel is a Klipsch, a gigantic refrigerator sized Klipsch, sort of like an Axiom made Merak MC6H without the trapezoid cabinet but with the same layout, but huge ... 8" drivers instead of 6.5" and a HUGE horn tweeter instead of a little 7" x 3" tweeter.
BTW, that's the replacement Anthem PVA-5 amplifier, no blue lightning bolts and sudden death. The Kenwood KA9100 amp is having its output board getting re-soldered.
Yes, those are the Radio Shack Super Tweeters good to 40KHz ~3db. I don't know why they change the sound since I can't hear anything above 15KHz, but they do.
Front projection wouldn't work for me with my layout. The TV is against the wall that is a partial wall. The wall is open at the top and slants down the side since the steps are on the other side of it. Wouldn't project too well without the flat surface. I guess a screen could be hung down or something, but I don't see that happening without a dedicated HT room. I'm still a couple of years away from a TV anyway (assuming I can resist that long).
Well, I hang a big rollup screen on the front wall of our multi-purpose living room, so that the screen will cover the built-in "entertainment shelves" and an unused fireplace when it is rolled down. The living room is an open space and has huge windows that do not even have a shade (yet). Still, the projector produces a stunning big picture after dark. I could not have possibly achieved this with a big-box TV or a plasma.
Projectors becoming this affordable lately, front projection is well worth serious considerations with or without a dedicated HT room.
Something to keep in mind for your future planning...
Do you have a seperate TV in the room for daytime viewing? Do you watch everything on the projection or only movies?
I have a sliding glass door behind the couch in my room, and recently bought some room darkening liners to hang behind the curtains. There was too much glare during the day....much better now.
Zarak,
No, one entire wall of our living room is basically all windows facing the backyard, without any window treatments (yet). So, the room is VERY brightly lit during daytime. The projector is next to useless during the day. We kept a 32" tube TV on the built-in shelf on the front wall, and installed a big pulldown screen in front of the shelf. I just uploaded a series of photos of our "living-room HT" in the AVSforum. Please see
this thread.
Looks like you have the zen thing going there.
Those wall cables are not that bad.
We just added a DLP to our mix, too, Sushi - and we have a wall of glass, 26 feet high, facing the lake . . . you're right, TV during the day is a wash. Although with our old rear-projection TV, we would mostly just see ourselves reflected back in it during the day, so it's an improvement on that. But the clarity after dark! Wow! We did an A/B test throughout the course of a day and you could tell two hours before the sun went down who the hands-down winner was.
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Looks like you have the zen thing going there.
chess, do you mean those abstract-looking things on the wall??? Those are maps of the Burgandy wineries (Cote de Beaune and Cote de Nuits). Not exactly Zen... LOL
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and we have a wall of glass, 26 feet high, facing the lake . . .
Amie, are you complaining or what!?
How do I get to the pictures?
Axiomaudio.com/wallofame.html for the Axiom pictures, Mike, and of course sushi left a link to his.
Even more pics up! BigWill's system, and Rcvecc's, too! These are great!
And no, I most definitely am *not* complaining, Sushi! With a view like this, we never watch the screen until dark anyway! {grin}
I'd love to post your update, Haoleb! Send it on through!
Wow, those M80s are sitting up pretty darn high.
On top of subwoofers?
yes ,the m80s are sitting on top of 2 velodyne subwoofers.i always found that i get the best soundstage when the tweeters are at the same height,and the height is not a problem because my seat is 22' away.i have 4 rubber vibration isolater cubes under each m80 and the subs are spiked through the carpet.with all the levels set right the subs dont affect the soundstage like some would think.i tried probbably 2 or 3 million speaker positions(give or take a few) and luckily this one looks and sounds the best.when the kids are sleeping i shut the subs off and can still enjoy a movie thanks to the m80 powerfull bass.right now i am running a marantz thx-ultra 150x5 @8 ohms so im guessing at 4 ohms it might give the mains 200 or225 watts each.i am looking into a nad 218thx amp that is rated at 430 per channel at 4 ohms because the m80s are begging me for it...thanks Ron
I had my M22s sitting on top of two NHT subs for several months a while back. I also used small rubber feet to separate them. I heard nothing bad from this set up. In fact, it seemed to sound slightly better than when they are on the speaker stands.
Haloeb's Hideaway is updated!
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i always found that i get the best soundstage when the tweeters are at the same height,and the height is not a problem because my seat is 22' away.
Oh... Poor rcvecc! Are you watching that tiny little TV screen from whopping 22' away?
We watch a 120" diagonal from 13' away -- and believe or not, that ratio is pretty close to the THX-Home recommended specs.
Time for you to get a front projector, isn't it?
i'm working on it now,i would say within about 6 months or so i should have a projector.i am learning about them now,but i have to demo the model that i will buy in a store,and the problem is the only set-ups that i have found in my area start at about $7000.i am going to plan a day trip into new york and see what i can find at a more reasonable price.but for now , i'll just climb up on my roof and look south west and maybe catch a movie on your 120" screen... lol.....Ron
Sushi,
I'm sick of you pushing the front projector because you've almost got me sold on one. Please refrain from further posts about your FP. My wallet can't take anymore right now.
Frank
rcvecc,
Yeah, that's a very common problem in almost every town in the US -- Front projectors are still presented as the high-end, luxury item in most B&M stores, which is NOT true at all. I picked up my Yamaha at about US$2800 in Tokyo. The reality is, with FP you can get bigger, more film-like, and more enjoyable image at a cost substantially lower than the latest RPTV's and plasmas, AS LONG AS you have at least some degree of ambient light control.
Frank,
Thanks for motivating me to further accelerate my FP blurb posts. HAHAHA...
I can see paying $3000 for a FP, but what about the screen? I was just looking at some screens online, and they cost as much as the FP! What's up with that???
They don't have to be nearly that expensive. My 106" manual pull-down screen was only $400.
Yeah, my huge 8'x10' pulldown, custom masked to a 120"-diagonal 16:9 viewing area, was US$630 including shipment.
Of course, if you look at the "elite" brands such as Stewart, or the electric retractables with an electric variable masking system etc, the sky has no ceiling.
Yeah, and you have to actually talk to the vendors to get the good prices; don't pay the prices posted online. Same thing with the projectors -- call and ask for a better price.
Here's my together system. Well, most of it anyway. (My Cambridge Soundworks bi/dipoles don't deserve to be in a picture.) If I were to describe it, I'd call it "bachelor chic civilized by marriage." The room is about 12' x 13'.
This shot captures the combination entertainment center / speaker stand. Notice the "inconspicuous" SVS PB1-ISD subwoofer in the lower-left (under the burlap sack). Also notice the 32" Mitsubishi CRT TV. What?! You didn't know they made CRTs?! Well, that shows how old it is.
This shot shows my wife's wedding shoes placed prominently atop the VP100.
And finally, here's the HT mascot, Tex the fat deaf cat.
Those pics are superb. You should send them to Amie for posting on the Axiom website.
I love the fat cat.
Very nice pictures! How do you post pictures on this site?
Nice sneakers, a la "Father of the Bride"!!!
I have a web server at work that I store the pictures on. Then, it's a matter of enclosing the picture's URL in the UBBCode picture tags, like this (without the extra spaces):
[ picture ] http://url.to.my.picture/some.jpg [ /image ]
Ya know, that would look better with a VP150...
Wow...that is one FAT cat.
See, Peter, I told you that would take care of the problem with the mice!
Don't temp me with that VP150. I know it would look better. Plus, it would displace those two knick-knacks [evil grin].
Hmmm... the cost of a new VP150 is less than the cost of trading in my M22s and VP100 for new finishes....
Have you emailed Amie about the upgrade offer they have for the new finishes? New finishes on a pair of M22's and a VP100 is definately cheaper than a brand new VP150.
Not so in my case.
I figured out it would cost me about $375 (not including shipping), to trade my M22s and VP100 in for new speakers with custom non-glossy finishes. My M22s were factory outlet, so their trade-in value is lower.
What happened to your pic, Amie? After all of the talk here about subwoofers I was curious to see what you guys were running.
PS2
crappy VHS
"Digital" Cable
Pioneer 656A DVD/DVD-A/CD player
Rotel RSP-1066 processor
Rotel RB-1075 120x5 amp
The view from behind the couch. M22ti's, and VP150. Pikachu is sitting on top of the Hsu VTF-2.
View from the kitchen. From here you can see the god-awful position of my Polk Audio LS f/x surrounds. With any luck at all, they'll be replaced with some QS8's and then put in the rear. The QS8's will of course get mounted on the walls!
The "kids" watching TV. This view is a POV from the M22's stand.
Very nice!!! Looks like it sounds great, if you know what I mean.
You know sushi would probably say that the wall with the tv looks perfectly suited for a front projection setup.
But that's probably what sushi would say.
I'm just guessing.
Hmm... the wall with the tv looks perfectly suited for a front projection setup.
Then again, if you don't mind pushing that wall out a bit, you could set up a rear-projected/reflected screen using a mirror array.
I guess my picture is now imortalized on the Axiom wall-of-fame. What do you all think about there being an actual link on the Axiom site to the owners pictures? On one hand it would be more convienient, but on the other hand it's pretty cool that we've got access to a secret little part of the Axiom site. Hmmm...what say thee?
Well, Sushi shamed us into it. . . here's the new Ian-and-Amie setup.
I had been all excited to try one of the new custom finishes, but when we got it all built, the Light Maple blended in perfectly . . . The VP150s are being held up by Full Metal Brackets, by the way. We have 5 QS8s in Light Maple as well, for our surround speakers.
Wow! Well, I'll be the first to say it--I'm totally jealous of that setup. And that's without seeing the 5 QS8's. Out of curiousity, how do the 2 VP-150's work? Do they share "center channel" duties?
ooooh, pretty...
How do the QS8s shake out? 2 sides, 2 rears, 1 center rear, for both 7.1 and 6.1? (or .2, I suppose)
Holy moly...
Amie, now you have to tell us how exactly you hooked up those 11 total speakers and drive them.
Also, what is your projector? Is that screen about 100"-diagonal?
TWIN Centers !! I LOVE it.. More photos, plezzzz ?
I'm seeing an astounding speaker setup with a lovely visual opportunity in front, however, those HUGE glass windows to the left seem to be letting in a fair bit of ambient light and i can't see the picture.
There doesn't appear to be any curtains or curtain rods visible.
Is this a night-time only theatre?
A drive-in at the lake so to speak?
Wow...grean with envy here.
Very cool. i like the way its simple. But its just too simple for me. Need some color in there!
Come on now Chess, you know you wish you had that problem, right ? haha.. You and me both, eh ? hahah..
I would have to guess this is a new, 'dedicated' theater room, with some ideas still floating around in Amie an Ian's head..
Notice how those M80's almost look like 22's ?? BIG screen !
I noticed the same thing. M80's are HUGE, and they look quite small in that picture. That screen must be a monster!
Looks like the windows have a little tint on them. You cannot under estimate the effect that stuff has. We tinted the windows at our house with the least dark stuff they had and it works awesome. Keeps glare down and such, but more importantly keeps heat out. Critical when you live on the edge of the desert. Not a factor in Canada, eh?
My understanding from Amie's previous post is that the huge window is facing a LAKE!!! So, I guess it's VERY dark at night even without window treatments. And if you live in such a nice location, why would you ever want to watch crappy movies during daytime???
[why am I filling in here for Amie...? LOL]
Kudos and math honours to the first person who extrapolates the size of their big screen based on the M80s in front.
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why would you ever want to watch crappy movies during daytime???
Assuming that the screen was ONLY used for movies, then i would have to answer this question by saying:
Star Wars all day marathon
Star Trek all day marathon
Indiana Jones all day marathon
.....etc etc
Assuming the screen were used for both tv and movies, then of course, during the day use would HAVE to cover the football season!!
M80s are about 40" tall. The screen looks about 50% taller than the speakers, or about 60". One of Da-Lite's standard sizes is 58" x 104", for a diagonal of 119". I bet that's what they have.
Jason sounds right.
Here is my beloved screen with a 119"-diagonal viewing area.
My Hales fronts are about the same size as the M80.
I just need 5 more speakers!!!
WOW! That's worth the three hour drive to Dallas to see! (Assuming you wouldn't mind if I dropped by).
HGP, of course you are always welcome here in DFW.
Incidentally, my oldest daughter is fencing in Austin through this weekend.
What a wonderful setup, thats a little what i'm aiming for, in the very near future, (excuse to my wife is..it'a all sushi's fault!!!)
on an other note, i see you have 2 x vp150's hooked up.... what is the best way to connect it to a denon avr-4802 (until the long avaited 4803 comes out)
Hmm . . . that generated lots of questions! Yup, it's nighttime only. The wall of glass is not tinted - just looks out over green, green tress and a blue, blue lake. So just as Sushi said, no TV needed during the day! I don't know a thing about the hookup (blissful wife!) but yes, the two centers are both processing center channels, and the current experiment with the surrounds is four surrounds and a center rear vs 2 surrounds and 2 rears - I'll keep you posted! The screen is indeed 119" diagonal - it lowers another two or three feet for optimal movie viewing if you're in a barcalounger . . .
I love it when I'm right. :-)
Amie, can you update the "wall of fame" with my newest pic?
OK...I've upgraded my speakers, added a rack, and mounted my surround speakers. Rather than post a bunch of pics into this post, I've thrown together a quick website.
http://www.funnyfarmcomics.net/ht.htm
Wow. Those M60s sure look nice next to all that equipment, don't they?
Also, the surround(s?) looks right at home on the wall.
Can you believe I've had those surrounds for about 8 years, and I just now mounted them. They've never been wall mounted before! LOL
I'm in the wall of fame!! WooHoo!
You're listed as Halenstone, and that's a sweet looking setup you've got!
Just noticed rcvecc's system. I don't think it's such a good idea to put a speaker directly on a subwoofer. All the subwoofer's resonance would transmit directly to the speaker cabinet. YIKES!
Congratulations Peter, you've matched Craig's accomplishment.
I was doing the same thing for a while, and if anything, the sound was better than now.. I took them down when I learned that subs were not normally shielded, and to try some new speaker placements..
As I said, the M80's sounded better on top of the subs.. Go figure, eh..
You've forgotten so soon, Peter? A few days ago Craig had his name at the top of all the boards for a brief time and you commented on it. You achieved the same domination about two hours ago.
He's done it before this, too. I personally think he does it on purpose. ;-)
Thanks for the clarification.
Yes, I admit this is not the first time it has happened. However, I DO try to keep my comments germane to the discussion.
"I am Sparticus" is just my signature. It's what the drummer said in "The Wonders". My forum name is Halenstone.
It's also what everyone says at the end of the movie "Sparticus!"