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Posted By: ghost271 I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/29/09 05:15 PM
So i finally got the room rearranged and the QS8s hung and ran the Yammy auto calibration. It came up that i had a wiring issue. WTF? So i checked and rechecked. Everything seemed fine so i checked the manual and it said the error message may occur even if things are hooked up properly. So i watched movies for a few days but it was still bugging me. So long story short, if i hooked up the left wire to red and the right to black, doing it the same way at the other end puts it in the opposite state. So my question is, could i have damaged my speakers or reciever at all by doing that? I figured you wouldnt get sound if they werent hooked up right.

Oh and on a side note i will get pics up today. I ran 'Asteroid Chase' from SW Episode 2 and the QS8s added the echo and feel of actually being in a cavern. Watching the Dave Matthews concert, it was like the QS8s knocked my walls down and transported me to Radio City Music Hall. I've never experianced that before.
Posted By: Kruncher Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/29/09 05:41 PM
No, you won't do any damage by making the connections backwards (out of phase), and you're correct in saying that it wouldn't sound right.

Glad to hear that you're pleased, thrilled even, with your decision.
Posted By: Zimm Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/29/09 05:50 PM
It is hard to explain to people how much the QS8 adds to the experience. My room is far from ideal, but I had the exact same reaction at first - felt like the walls had been moved far away. Yet, with on-line gaming, I can hear the foot steps of people running behind me and visualize exactly where they are (before I shoot them!). Very impressive to be able to add space and detailed location at the same time.

And ditto the phase issue. You can't hurt the speakers running out of phase, you just don't want to do it unless you are super tech-guy and can figure out that the phase adjustment corrects some timing issue. (Subs are often run out of phase for this reason - a reason i can't explain.)
Posted By: SirQuack Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/29/09 08:36 PM
Even one little wire strand touching the other connection can cause errors, I would recheck. My speaker wire had a red strip along one side, so it was easy to make sure I put the same side on the red/black posts.
My Yamaha RX-V461 would sometimes tell me my speakers were wired wrong. I found it had to do with the subwoofer and setting the manins to large and bass out to both. I didn't realize at the time the sub and mains were canceling each other out, resulting in no bass. It would think the mains were wired wrong, I had to reverse the sub polarity to get bass.

Then I learned it wasn't the best set up and set the mains to small and bass out to subwoofer and everything worked and sounded better.
Posted By: Zimm Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/30/09 04:37 PM
Great to hear you got it worked out. That stuff can frustrate you to no end.
Posted By: ghost271 Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/30/09 10:10 PM
 Originally Posted By: Zimm
Great to hear you got it worked out. That stuff can frustrate you to no end.


It's funny actually. Usually I would lose it, but lately things have just been rolling off my shoulders. I'm guessing it has to be because of having my daughter I have had to learn more patience. Its a good thing. I actually pulled all the speaker wires back to each speaker and checked each one. Anyway.

My replacement speaker arrived today and low and behold this box had a HUGE hole in the side ( about 10"x6" ). I was scared at what the speaker would look like inside, but luckily this time everything looks fine. Hopefully nothing inside was rattled lose but so-far-so-good. \:\)

And last but not least here are the pics.



I am an avid GI Joe collector and a semi Star Wars buff. As you can see this is where I go and 'Geek It Up' with my friends or unwind.

Blu-Ray count is at 59 I believe, and HDDVD is at 117 from what I recall.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/30/09 11:44 PM
awesome setup man...
Posted By: davekro Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 01:09 AM
Yes, nice set up. \:\)
Posted By: ghost271 Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 02:08 AM
Thanks guys. Unfortunately its an 'illegal' room so it has to be torn out when we sell. Otherwise I was going to paint it all black, but that would take too many coats of primer to get back to an egg shell white. When I was looking to mount my Klipschs in the wall behind the recliner ( pardon the poor cable management) the stud finder was detecting electrical current all throughtout that section of wall. So to ere on the side of safety I didnt screw any holes into that wall. The recliner gets slid out about 3' when watching movies.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 02:17 AM
Illegal?
Posted By: davekro Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 04:14 AM
I know that many thing built out of code can remain when sold. The buyers just need to be aware and OK with it. I know I'd prefer a room to stay vs, be ripped out on a given property I was considering. It does not add the value a regular room would for sure, but for many would be more valuable than a comparable sized home, but w/o the extra room.
My 2¢
Posted By: davekro Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 04:16 AM
Of course, be sure to get rid of the Meth equipment and all traces of the chemicals. That may ward off some buyers. ;\)
Posted By: ghost271 Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 05:40 AM
 Originally Posted By: davekro
I know that many thing built out of code can remain when sold. The buyers just need to be aware and OK with it. I know I'd prefer a room to stay vs, be ripped out on a given property I was considering. It does not add the value a regular room would for sure, but for many would be more valuable than a comparable sized home, but w/o the extra room.
My 2¢





Well we knew going in that it wasn't to be listed as sellable square footage, but what we weren't told till after signing the papers, was that strata wanted the rooms gone. Reason being is that Strata fees are assessed on square footage and now ours has technically more square footage than a 3 bedroom. But the 3 bedroom owners would pay more monthly. So there's a lot of things that need to be sorted out before we move. We actually ended up paying about $10k more for our place because of the extra room, and was going to be a 'bonus' to whomever we sold to in the future. Figured we'd at least make that money back when we sold, but not anymore. \:\(
Posted By: davekro Re: I'm an idiot, but it sounds good... - 03/31/09 07:37 PM
Bummer on that. :o( I'm just going thru a refi right now. The 'appraised' price is brutally low. The 'preliminary' estimated appraisal was at 42% off the 2006 highs! Crap. The official appraisal came in at 35% off that '06 high. Strange to be relieved at only a 35% value decline! Ce le vie (sp?)

I always look to what I can appreciate, like having equity to be able to refi! There, but for the grace of (insert deity of choice or not ;o), go I.
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