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Posted By: CV "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 08:26 AM
Whose bright idea was it to include a subwoofer in the receiver?

Yamaha YHT-S400 Includes Slim Sound Bar And Sub-Integrated Receiver (HotHardware)

Yamaha's product page
Posted By: bridgman Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 11:44 AM
Eww. You could get mice living in there.

On a positive note, I expected we would see the first cell phone with a plastic peel-off saying "BUILT IN SUBWOOFER".

Fortunately I seem to have been wrong.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 12:06 PM
Finally, a receiver for those who LOVE receivers.




In that "special" way.
Posted By: SRoode Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 12:40 PM
If I could "LOVE" that port in that "special" way, I'd have a new career!

By the way... 10% THD!!!
Posted By: Adrian Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 02:35 PM
What's next? a receiver with cup holders?
Posted By: terzaghi Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 04:58 PM
wtf? looks like the marketing/engineering team were smoking crack when they come up with that one.
Posted By: jakewash Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 05:34 PM
Where's Big John when we need him.......
Posted By: terzaghi Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 06:39 PM
 Originally Posted By: Adrian
What's next? a receiver with cup holders?

You mean your receiver DIDN'T come standard with cup holders?

Gee, join the modern age!
Posted By: terzaghi Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 06:40 PM
On a serious note, that can NOT be good to have all of the innards of a receiver being rattled by a built in sub....
Posted By: Adrian Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 06:43 PM
I think the engineers at Yamaha are just bored....
Posted By: SRoode Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 06:49 PM
Any person who designed this should not have the privilege to be titled "Engineer". Also, any Engineer who signs his name on an audio product with 10% THD should be very ashamed.
Posted By: Adrian Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 06:54 PM
I think it was designed by one Foo Kung Dummi.
Posted By: medic8r Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 07:16 PM
Hey, in Fredericksburg, there was the Fukien Gourmet restaurant.
Posted By: CatBrat Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 07:22 PM
I bet they sell a gazillion of these to masses, though. Baa. Baaa.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 07:38 PM
The 10% THD is only when it's playing bass. With all those electrons jiggling off their paths, it's no wonder.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 07:41 PM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
10% THD

There's a 10% Tax on High-Def??? Sounds bad...
Posted By: Spoiler Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 07:52 PM

 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
The 10% THD is only when it's playing bass. With all those electrons jiggling off their paths, it's no wonder.


Actually, it seems the front speaker system also has 10% THD!

"Front Speaker System 50 W x 3 (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD)"

Ouch...
Posted By: fredk Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 08:05 PM
 Originally Posted By: terzaghi
 Originally Posted By: Adrian
What's next? a receiver with cup holders?

You mean your receiver DIDN'T come standard with cup holders?

Gee, join the modern age!

Mine sure did.
Posted By: fredk Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 08:05 PM
 Originally Posted By: CatBrat
I bet they sell a gazillion of these to masses, though. Baa. Baaa.

Only if the rebadge it Bose.
Posted By: jakewash Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 08:48 PM
 Originally Posted By: fredk

Only if the rebadge it Bose.

Sad but true
Posted By: 80'sMan Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 10:33 PM
I think it's a great idea that opens up options for a home theater in areas that really lack space.
For example . . .
- in the kitchen cupboards
- the linen closet
- back of the cutlery drawer
and
- the fireplace
Posted By: Micah Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 11:32 PM
I can't wait to see the info-mercial. "Tired of listening to awesome sounding surround sound through those pesky SEPARATES (shows footage of guy surrounded by two tower speakers, a center channel and two satelite speakers with that stupic look on his face that says "I just don't know what I'm supposed to do with all of these"!!!), well its your lucky day, because Yamaha has gone and incorporated all of that sound in one simple machine!

All your friends will wonder how all of your DVD's sound so amazing, why you'll be the talk of the neighborhood! But why stop at one Yamaha integrated reciever? Buy five today and enjoy surround sound the way only the extremelly wealthy have been enjoying it for centuries! Upgrade your order to 7 units and we'll even throw in this handy dandy power cord!"

I did have a whole list of Axiom products I was wanting to buy. Now I can scratch all those off and just write 'YAMAHA' in big, blue letters up at the top and be done with it. \:\)
Posted By: SRoode Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 12/31/09 11:33 PM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
The 10% THD is only when it's playing bass. With all those electrons jiggling off their paths, it's no wonder.


As Spoiler said, it's 10% all around... Shocking!
Posted By: pmbuko Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/01/10 12:55 AM
I was attempting a joke. \:\(
Posted By: fredk Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/01/10 01:53 AM
 Originally Posted By: SRoode
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
The 10% THD is only when it's playing bass. With all those electrons jiggling off their paths, it's no wonder.


As Spoiler said, it's 10% all around... Shocking!

Well of course. Who's going to turn off the sub??
Posted By: audiosavant Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/02/10 03:15 AM
Yamaha’s proprietary AIR SURROUND XTREME technology...

Lol. Mkay.

This makes Bose look respectable. I so hate most consumer electronic "gimmicks".

What's interesting is, the Yamaha N12 mixer (professional division) is currently creating serious buzz amongst pro audio people as having probably the best sounding a/d and d/a converters for under 10k.
Posted By: fredk Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/02/10 04:55 AM
I remember talking to Tom Cumberland about Yamaha. Their pro and consumer divisions are completely separate and quite different animals.

Yamaha also makes one of the most respected studio speakers around: second only to B&W.
Posted By: jakewash Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/02/10 05:03 AM
Considering how badly things are getting mixed at studios is it really a good thing to be compared to studio monitors \:D ;\)
Posted By: fredk Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/02/10 05:18 AM
More like leading a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink. The best equipment in the world will not make up for a crappy engineer.
Posted By: jakewash Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/02/10 05:52 AM
And from the sounds of it the engineer is only following orders from the execs at the recording studios and/or the musicians themselves, all just for radio play \:\(
Posted By: Murph Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 05:40 PM
What I really hate is when marketers take words and use them totally in the wrong context from which they belong to make you think something is better than normal. Last night I saw a commercial for some new anti-wrinkle cream that called itself some kind of blah blah blah Wrinkle Protocol. The actors kept repeating the word as they spouted on about how since they started using the "blah blah blah Wrinkle Protocol", they have gotten such great results.

It's a Cream People, a physical object. Not a "protocol"!!!
Posted By: ClubNeon Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 05:53 PM
But the procedure for using the cream could be considered a protocol.

Oh, and Audioholics has their First Look at the receiver with the integrated sub up now.
Posted By: Murph Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 06:14 PM
 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
But the procedure for using the cream could be considered a protocol.


True enough, but that' is not how they were using it in the sentences. It's semantic usage inferred that the cream itself was a protocol all on it's own.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 07:11 PM
If I start my own tech business, I'll call it #1 Best Protocol -- The best pro to call is #1 Best Protocol!
Posted By: Adrian Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 07:13 PM
Or start up a brothel and call it #1 Hotocol.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 07:49 PM
Or a drug pusher could be BloToCall.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 07:59 PM
Or an interactive Star Wars story hotline called Yodacall.
Posted By: Micah Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 08:06 PM
Oy vey!
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 08:07 PM
 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Or a drug pusher could be BloToCall.


I have to admit, my mind first put this under the Hotocall umbrella above, but remembered that this might be a family forum.

A weird, dysfunctional one, but family all the same.
Posted By: medic8r Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 09:11 PM
Mark, Sean's playing with my toys and I said he couldn't and CV is chasing the cat and Tom is drunk again and DO SOMETHING!
Posted By: fredk Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/04/10 11:59 PM
 Originally Posted By: Murph
It's a Cream People, a physical object. Not a "protocol"!!!

Relax already, they're just pronouncing it wrong. They probably meant procto-something-or-another.
Posted By: Murph Re: "Subwoofer-integrated receiver" - 01/05/10 01:49 PM
HAHA.
Thanks Fred.
I'm the only 'operations guy' in a full floor full of marketers so it's my duty to abuse "The Dark Side" as often as I can.
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