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Posted By: Gringo Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/09/10 12:44 PM
Hi all,

I am looking to purchase a VP150 in next month or so (to go with the QS8's I just ordered!!) and the colour will depend on the type of bracket I can get - let me explain...

I have a 50inch plasma that is wall mounted on a pretty standard flat wall mount bracket. I am trying to find something that I can attach to this and hold the new centre speaker so that it runs nicely along the bottom of the TV (It will protrude abit but that is no issue). If I can do this I will order a black speaker as I think it will look great adjacent to the black TV.

If I am unable to get such a beast then I will need to order a Light Maple one that will sit on top of an low white coloured entertainment unit that is positioned below the TV.

I am unable to attach a bracket directly to the wall as the wall in question is plaster board (I think referred to as Drywall in North America) and will not support the weight over time. The nearest stud is too far away for any traditional type of bracket.

Anyone know of anything??

Cheers
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/09/10 12:53 PM
Mount a board horizontally between the two studs to allow a traditional wall mount?
Posted By: CatBrat Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/09/10 02:35 PM
Can you use either a W150 on/in wall or a VP150 In-Cabinet Speaker? These don't rely on any wood support or bracing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/09/10 04:13 PM
Gringo, there are products that will allow you to mount into drywall:

http://www.itwbuildex.com/ezprod.htm

I wouldn't necessarily use them to mount 50lbs, but the VP150 is less than 25lbs so you should be OK. I've mounted items using them, but I don't think they were more than 25lbs.

To be REALLY safe, though, you might want to use something stronger like the ones listed in the bottom half of this page:

http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/inffastener/infanchor/infanchor.html
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/09/10 11:05 PM
 Originally Posted By: htnut
Gringo, there are products that will allow you to mount into drywall:

http://www.itwbuildex.com/ezprod.htm

I wouldn't necessarily use them to mount 50lbs, but the VP150 is less than 25lbs so you should be OK. I've mounted items using them, but I don't think they were more than 25lbs.

To be REALLY safe, though, you might want to use something stronger like the ones listed in the bottom half of this page:

http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/inffastener/infanchor/infanchor.html



I have a hundred year old 45# mirror hanging off one of these "screw inset anchors". Been there for 5 years, no problems. I use them every where for everything. I wouldn't have any second thoughts about hanging a 150 with 2 or 3. I also have my QS4s installed with them, and this weekend will hang my QS8s with them.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 12:59 AM
The thing about your mirror is all the weight is pulling perpendicular to the wall anchor. That's where it's strongest. When using a wall anchor on a speaker mount, much of the force (at least on the top-most screw) will be acting to try to pull the anchor straight out from the wall. The Axiom FMB mounts attach to the wall at two points.
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 01:20 AM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
The thing about your mirror is all the weight is pulling perpendicular to the wall anchor. That's where it's strongest. When using a wall anchor on a speaker mount, much of the force (at least on the top-most screw) will be acting to try to pull the anchor straight out from the wall. The Axiom FMB mounts attach to the wall at two points.


Just two points vertically aligned? I still wouldn't be worried about them. I would think something that horz, would have something to both sides on top then a bottom mount just for "bounce"
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 01:31 AM
Ive actually been thinking of hanging my EP500 on the wall with a couple of these anchors \:\)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 04:37 AM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
The thing about your mirror is all the weight is pulling perpendicular to the wall anchor. That's where it's strongest. When using a wall anchor on a speaker mount, much of the force (at least on the top-most screw) will be acting to try to pull the anchor straight out from the wall. The Axiom FMB mounts attach to the wall at two points.


Good point, especially if using the FMB. What I envisioned were anchor points near the ends of the speaker (ie. distributed more horizontally rather than being centered vertically).

Perhaps he can attach a shelf (with L brackets) to the wall using these anchors, and then sit the speaker on the shelf. It may not be the prettiest solution though...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 04:38 AM
 Originally Posted By: wordgasm
Ive actually been thinking of hanging my EP500 on the wall with a couple of these anchors \:\)


\:o
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 05:20 AM
 Originally Posted By: wordgasm
Ive actually been thinking of hanging my EP500 on the wall with a couple of these anchors \:\)

That method would be the wrong way to go about it. This woudl work better:

First, you attach a piece of plywood to the wall by screwing into the studs.
Then you use a heat gun to peel the vinyl away from one side of the EP500.
Next, liberally apply wood glue to the now exposed MDF on the EP500.
Finally, press the glued side up against the plywood and hold in place until the glue cures.

You may want to get something to prop it up there in case your arms get tired.
Posted By: Gringo Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 10:20 AM
Hello again,

Sorry for delay in response but different time zones etc...

Mark - I have thought about placing a bracing piece of timber across the two studs and then attaching to that. It was my plan B if I could not find a bracket. I simply thought if a bracket existed it would be a lot easier and neater.

Anchors/toggles etc - good information (thanks for the link) but to be honest I have had bad experiences with all of these devises. I am not 100% sure if Drywall is the same as our plasterboard but what I have found is that the plaster simple shifts and moves under constant pressure and after time what ever is holding the weight starts to sag. Maybe I am doing it wrong but due to the visibility of the area I did not want there to be a problem with this in a couple of years.

I take it that no-one has seen or heard of a bracket??

Thanks again.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 11:16 AM
If I'm understanding you correctly, I haven't seen a bracket that will attach to the TV mount.

Here's a "plaque" I built for my QS8 speaker, because in my 120 year-old home, I have horsehair plaster and the studs are not regular. I didn't want the mounting screws to start vibrating out so I was looking to distribute the weight of the speaker over a larger mounting area. It's what I had in mind regarding you building something to bridge between the studs...though yours would need to be wider I'm sure. In this case, I put a hole through it and a "channel" in the back to place the wire.




Posted By: jakewash Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 09:10 PM
Mark, are you sure you secured that 'T' bracket well enough to the plaque? ;\)
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 10:25 PM
The plant threatened to shrivel up and die if I didn't....
Posted By: Micah Re: Centre Speaker wall mount - 03/10/10 11:50 PM
Ain't you guys ever heard of duct tape?
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