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Hi,

My room is 12x28. I sit at 14 foots from the wall so there a 12 foot space behind my seating position. Is the back wall to far away for back surround duty?

If not, what kind of speakers will serve me best in that situation (direct or di/biole)?

Thanks,

Eric
I'm assuming you're talking about the back surrounds in a 7.1 setup. While the QS8s will certainly work wonderfully, 12 ft is a pretty big distance and direct firing like the M2s should work very well as well and be a more cost effective if that's of any concern. What are your other speakers?
How far are the side walls? Lots of people use QS8's for side surrounds, and then use a direct firing speaking such as the M2 or M3 for the back speakers, particularly when the back wall is that far back. You should have no problems as you can adjust the distance and channel level with your AVR but I would recommend direct firing speakers for the rear. Someone who actually has this set-up can probably give you more information.
Direct firing would be the best in this case, I think 12 ft may be too much for the QS8's to diffuse properly.
Originally Posted By: Rick32
Hi,

My room is 12x28. I sit at 14 foots from the wall so there a 12 foot space behind my seating position. Is the back wall to far away for back surround duty?

If not, what kind of speakers will serve me best in that situation (direct or di/biole)?

Thanks,

Eric



My room is exactly the same size as yours and I have M2s as back surround speakers and they work fine. In fact, given the seating position and the distance, back surround speakers are an excellent candidate from which benefits of having them are probably more advantageous then a smaller room where you are sitting closer to the back wall. They fill in that space better than not having them.

Of course, make sure you have them balanced properly with the others.
Thanks for your help.

So the M2 seen the best option?

The 2 chanel back surround at 12 foot is this a bit overkill?
I think you will be fine. What are you using for side surrounds and for the rest of your speakers?
Originally Posted By: terzaghi
I think you will be fine. What are you using for side surrounds and for the rest of your speakers?


For my side I was thinking of using the same M2.... But everybody told me to go with the QS8 but I am still not sure on this one....


Eric
You should listen to everybody smile The QS8s are really amazing and I am sure most (or probably everyone) will recommend them for sides instead of the M2s. For the sides it is worth the extra cash, for the back it is arguable depending on preferences.
Hi Eric,

The QS8v3 would be my first choice; the distance is not a factor. The fact is that there are no applications where a direct radiating speaker will outperform an Axiom QS dedicated surround speakers for deep immersion.

I also find outdtanding the performance of the QS8 suround speaker model in its role as a rear or side surround speaker for musical application. Some might think because of its diffuse nature that it would lack a bit of directionality but it does not; it provides enough directional cues to be highly satisfying.
I loathe being with the majority wink but with 12 feet behind you, the best performing/most cost effective setup is QS8 surrounds with M2 rears. While the QS8s might give you “marginally” better performance, IMO they would not be worth the cost difference.
Definitely go with QS8's for side surrounds.
With 12' of space behind your seating area, I'd personally go with direct radiating speakers. Many of the 7.1 sound tracks out nowadays have discrete R/L SB channels with things like gun shots, walking behind you, breathing, growling, etc. The sounds from these rear discrete channels tend to be sounds better suited lower than the side surround too. I'd put them at ear level or just slightly higher if you can. The Q's work great for the RS, but I can't help but believe a direct radiating speaker is the way to go for the rears if you have the distance, which you have plenty. I'd actually try to talk you into M22's or M60's if you have the funds. I have tried M3's and found them to blend nicely, as the rears do not have to match the tonal frequencies as much as the front R/L and center. It my case though, I only had about four feet behind me and QS8's work much better than the M3's. I envy your space. Your options are wide open to put just about anything in that room you want.
Thanks all for your help.

I think I will go with 2 x qs8 and 2 x M2 for back surround.

Once they are install I will come back to comment....
post pictures when you get it all set up!
Rick, my room and seating dimensions are within a foot of yours. I went with QS8 sides and M2 rear (6.1). There is very little material that uses the rear, and it is so far away from seating that you wouldn't get the value benefit from QS8s.

The QS8s for sides are amazing and there is a lot of sound track material to take advantage of them.

Bill
Bill, it should be pointed out that all material uses the rear surrounds if a mode such as DPLIIx is employed.
Originally Posted By: JohnK
Bill, it should be pointed out that all material uses the rear surrounds if a mode such as DPLIIx is employed.


True, I plan to use/try this mode as well...

Yesterday I pull the trigger on the QS8 and M2 cool

Cant wait to received my shipping confirmation email... grin
Originally Posted By: Rick32
Cant wait to received my shipping confirmation email... grin


Super! I received my shipping email last night...

Should received my Axiom QS8 and M2... TODAY... grin
Purolator as just drop 4 box on my door... :-)
Long night ahead of you. Enjoy.
Originally Posted By: Rick32
Purolator as just drop 4 box on my door... :-)


Woo hoo ! Remember, rectangular ones in the back, funny shaped ones at the side wink
Originally Posted By: bridgman
Originally Posted By: Rick32
Purolator as just drop 4 box on my door... :-)


Woo hoo ! Remember, rectangular ones in the back, funny shaped ones at the side wink

grin

Should setup my new baby tomorow...
No pics yet? wink
Ok here we go...



Those speakers are really well pack


Cant wait to put those on the wall



Ahhhh.....that's better smile
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