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Posted By: AnotherRed First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 04:18 AM
I've been sneaking around here for a few months. After reading everyones sugestions I ordered the M60s, Vp150 and Qs8s. I ordered last Sat. and recieved 1 M60 today. I guess Fedex is busy this time of year. The worst of it is only ONE speaker. I guess I'll sit and look at it till the others arrive tomorrow.
I do have a question (the answer is probally here but I missed it). My seating is such that our chairs is against the rear wall. The left seat(facing the tv) has a wall 5' to left and to the right chair is an opening. Do I place the sourounds on the rear wall or put the left side on the wall and the right surround on a stand so they are on the sides? Also the room is 16'x 16'.
Thanks everone, and hopefully tomorrow I will be listening the the sweet sound of the Axioms!
Posted By: JohnK Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 05:01 AM
Red, as you describe your room the best idea would probably be to mount the QS8s on the rear wall about 5-6' high and widely separated, almost to the sidewall on the left and where the sidewall would have been on the right.
Posted By: Isabel Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 05:06 AM
Hi anotherRed.Welcome to the forum and congrats on the purchase. You will be happy with the speakers and noticed that you got the floor models. On your question, I will leave that to the more knowlegeable guys here in the forum. Let us know how you like the speakers. Isabel.
Posted By: mwc Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 06:30 AM
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I've been sneaking around here for a few months




Were you that guy named "anonamous" I kept seeing when I checked to see who's on line?

Welcome to the forum!

Ideally, side surrounds should be placed to the sides and slightly behind the listening position. I've always thought that this was a little silly because it only takes into account only one seating position - the "sweet spot". My friend, and much respected poster on this fourm (and others), Masa (sushi) has a simular setup where his seating is close to the back wall but nowhere to mount the QS8s to the sides. So his are on the back wall. There is a picture of his setup on this board, perhaps someone else can tell us how to get there. Anyway, his sound just fantastic. If your surround speakers were not dipoles, like the QS8's, I would say put them to the sides with the stands. But I think the QS8's would be just fine on the rear wall.

P.S: To sushi: We miss ya, give us a sign if you're still out there.
Posted By: Hawkson101 Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 10:40 AM
anonymous is every unregistered user. ussually there are a ton online at any given time

Posted By: mwc Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 01:03 PM
LOL! Hawkson101, thanks for pointing that out but when I asked AnotherRed: "Were you that guy named "anonamous" I kept seeing when I checked to see who's on line?".

I was making a funny. Granted, it was subtle but come on, give me a little credit.
Posted By: AnotherRed Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 02:11 PM
That probally was me! Im thinking they'll probally go on the rear wall, and I have seen the pic your talking about. When I put them up, how far should the left one be from the side wall? like 4" or more like a foot? I'm thinking if its too close the left one will have alot more sound from the wall deflection. I know its one of those things I just have to try, but a stating point is alwasy helpfull.
Thanks again
Posted By: pmbuko Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 05:56 PM
LOL Your humor is safe with me.
Posted By: chesseroo Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 06:00 PM
That is funny because i was about to say, nothing is safe with Peter.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 06:05 PM
No no no. Nothing is sacred with Peter.
Posted By: chesseroo Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 06:08 PM
Nothing is with Peter?
Nothing Peter?
NP?
No problem.
Posted By: mwc Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/18/03 06:11 PM
I would start with at least a foot if you have it just to give them a little breathing space.
In reply to:

I'm thinking if its too close the left one will have alot more sound from the wall deflection



The level can always be adjusted with the help of a SPL meter. And yes, I would experiment with the distance (mainly because I'm obsessive about my set up.)
Posted By: JohnK Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 12:24 AM
Red, about a foot should be good, and yes, you'll not get as much reflected sound from the right because of no wall there, but it can be balanced reasonably well.
Posted By: AnotherRed Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 01:46 AM
Well the other 4 boxes showed up today. I got everything istalled and they sound great. The left rear ended up a little more than a foot from the side wall. Mainly bacause that is where the wall stud was. Sounds good to me.
Its fun listening to old cds and hearing details I never really noticed before. Even watching action scenes in some movies these speakers really bring out the detail.
Well I'm glad I found you guys (and gals) other wise I'd probally be listening to Bose right now (well not really). Now I can give a good friend a run for his money. Hes got a nice Definitive setup which sound real nice, too bad I'll have to tell him how my whole system cost what his towers ran.
Thanks to everone here and Axiom for great speakers at a good price.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 02:32 AM
Do you have a subwoofer yet?
Posted By: AnotherRed Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 01:57 PM
Actually I have been reading up on the subs. So far the HSU STF2 looks like the one for me. Also it seems there is some talk Axiom is coming out with a diff. sub also. I would like to see what they offer.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 06:10 PM
There's currently a STF-2 on Ebay. Though after shipping, it'll probably not end up being a bargain. I'd just order one direct from Hsu.
Posted By: x94blair3 Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 06:15 PM
I know that HSU is supposed to be doing their VTF series over again once the STF were in place. I don't think people would have been willing to spend the extra money to have what they might percieve as dated technology when the lower model was newer.

Also, if the price point gets too close the extra production costs make no sense. I'm excited to see the new VTF-2 and VTF-3 that I think you're referring to. I figure they should be out when I finally have the money for all this.

I must be the only dink on the planet that hangs out at an A/V forum and doesn't own anything
Posted By: spiffnme Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 06:21 PM
Nope...there are a couple others who hang out and own nothing yet.

I'm not sure what Hsu has planned for the VTF series. They're still great subs, but like you said, the price doesn't make sense now that the STF's are out. Last I heard though, the VTF "upgrades" were minimal. I'm sure he/they have something planned though.
Posted By: jfoxtrot9 Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 06:25 PM
I just ordered a Hsu sub, and by recomendation of Dr Hsu, by email, he recomended I go with the VTF2 over the STF2 due to by his words were "the VTF2 has all the bugs worked out, the STF2 is in it's first production run, he is sure there will be some kinks to straighten out, for example some people feel the gain is too low. Future production runs will have the gain increased." I honostly don't know if that is important to anyone, but something to consider.
Posted By: mwc Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 06:36 PM
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I must be the only dink on the planet that hangs out at an A/V forum and doesn't own anything




Nick, it doesn't matter. I find many of your posts to be thoughtful and insightful. Keep them coming!
Posted By: x94blair3 Re: First post, Saying HI - 12/19/03 07:32 PM
That's great information. Thanks for letting us know. I suppose like all technology, you sometimes forget that it's got a developmental curve. It's also cool that as a small company they're responding to user feedback. Why everyone doesn't buy from companies like this I'll never know

Oh...and thanks for the kind words. Anything I can give back to any of these communities compared to what I've learned over these first few months pales in comparison. Nice to know I offer something in return.

-Nick
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