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Posted By: EFalardeau SPL meter - 10/18/07 02:46 PM
OK. I have given up trying to locate the person that has my old SPL meter, so I am going to buy one. I typed SPL meter in Amazon and got a truck-load of diffent models ranging from 30$ to 500$

Does anyone have any suggestions on which one to get? (10-to-1 Mojo has a suggestion! \:\) ) I don't want to buy one that is too cheap if paying 20$ more would have made a difference. But, at the same time, I am only planning to use it for HT calibration and not professionally!

Thanks in advance...
Posted By: nickbuol Re: SPL meter - 10/18/07 02:59 PM
Most people use the one from Radio Shack for $50...

The one that they show on their site is out of stock though...

Radio Shack SPL Meter
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/18/07 08:10 PM
That's what I had. So if I'll look for a similar one.
Posted By: Mojo Re: SPL meter - 10/18/07 08:13 PM
I doubt you have any Radio Shacks in Montreal. I think they've all been converted to Circuit City. And CC no longer carries SPL meters. You may want to try a music store. I use this. It's extremely easy to use and I've had it for 3 years and never changed batteries.

I would discourage you from using an analog meter. The scales are too cumbersome.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/18/07 08:18 PM
Thanks. Probably order it today or tomorrow.
Posted By: Murph Re: SPL meter - 10/19/07 12:49 PM
That is the same unit I have Mojo. Seems to do a good job.
It once picked up an extra .5 db when my dog was wagging its tail.

Just in case anyone wondered what the SPL of a dog wag at 1 meter is. heh heh.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/19/07 01:21 PM
What's the impedence of your dog? How much resistence does he put out for his B-A-T-H?
Posted By: Ya_basta Re: SPL meter - 10/19/07 02:12 PM
Here is one from Circuit City that I have had my eye on. I don't know if it's a very good quality SPL meter. As far as I know the only difference is the accuracy.

SPL meter
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/19/07 02:16 PM
I ordered it Yesterday. It was the only place not charging me 25$ to ship it and that can actually ship it in Canada. Today, I received an e-mail that it is back order! So instead of receiving it Monday (I am off Monday and Tuesday next week to do so audio tune-up), I will receive it early November.

Gees... Good thing my new back surrounds (and a pair of M3 for a gift... that I might just happen to use for "testing") are arriving this morning, at least I'll have some fun for a while.
Posted By: Ya_basta Re: SPL meter - 10/19/07 02:17 PM
Let me know what you think of it, quality etc.

Thanks
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/29/07 09:49 PM
Got it! Very nice little thing. It was great to finally be able to run the Avia disk to double-check my sub settings. I only had three little changes to do, but they made the bass smoother (a slightly higher volume, and setting back TRIM=HALF and flipping phase back to 180 as I had set them by hear until I doubted myself and reset them to NONE and 0). I had two disks that I found had "strange bass". Bass is now good all over the place.

I was also very impressed by the bass transition between all the Axiom speakers and the EP-500. While all these weird noises (going from 150hz down to 20) on the Avia disks were going down, I kept watching the meter and it dipped around 50-60 hz until I changed the TRIM=HALF, and then it was impressively stable all the way; and for all the speakers M80, VP150, QS8. I could never tell when they were really crossing (receiver is set at 80hz for all the channels). Good engineering!
Posted By: Mojo Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 12:22 AM
Eric,

One of the things I did with my set-up was to set my receiver to normal listening volume and then measure the SPL out of the 80s without a sub at the cross-over frequency (80Hz). I then adjusted my 600 to have the same output at the cross-over frequency by shutting the 80s off and playing the 80Hz tone. Is that what you did as well?
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 01:08 AM
Not yet. I will try that tomorrow.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 01:11 AM
BTW, I meant "good idea, I'll try that tomorrow" \:\)
Posted By: Mojo Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 01:37 AM
Let us know what you find out. In my room, at -20dB on the Denon (about a half watt into my 80s), I get 96dB without the sub. Way too hot I know but I haven't figured out what to do about it.

BTW, are you going to carry that meter around with you now? It's fun measuring different sound sources \:\) .
Posted By: jakewash Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 01:51 AM
 Originally Posted By: Mojo

BTW, are you going to carry that meter around with you now? It's fun measuring different sound sources \:\) .


I have taken mine to work and measured the levels of the conveyor lines, the pressure washer back in our shop, my impact gun, impact hammer, etc. In the car and truck and at home I have checked my A/C compressor for my house, the furnace blower at the vents, my kids when they are wrestling......... it is fun.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 10:02 AM
Question: what are you using as source? A test signal that is at max volume? I tried a 440hz test signal at max moving from -30 to -18db and I got around 82-94 db at 4 feet (single channel). I also have "half-volume" test signals for 30, 40, 50 and 60hz.
Posted By: Mojo Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 12:37 PM
I use a test CD that has different tones recorded on it. The tones are recorded at -10dB.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 01:10 PM
Are the tones simple sine curves at exact wave lengths?
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 03:02 PM
Just tried with my current tones (at -10db or 1/2 volume).
40, 50, 60 hz shows up at 83db (receiver set at -17db) pretty constant throughout the room with subwoofer and almost all uniform coming from M80s (both channels were used or redirected to sub).

70-100 gives me 85-86db when using the cross-over, 84db with M80s alone. I had to put back the "TRIM=FLAT" on EP-500 otherwise numbers were too high.

So, all in all, sounds good.

I will order an actual test CD. I do not trust those files I am using. So I will not mess with my current setup (which sounds great with AVIA setup) until I put my hands on reliable material.

Amazon should have that, shouldn't they?

Now, let's sit back and enjoy! (I reveiced a bunch of SACDs yesterday)!
Posted By: Mojo Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 03:16 PM
I'm not sure what would be considered a good test CD nowadays. Mine is from 1990 and I'm sure they've improved since then.
Posted By: jakewash Re: SPL meter - 10/30/07 09:10 PM
I have the Avia coming next week and the new DVD video essentials
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