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Posted By: Glitchy Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 05:08 PM
Finally got my Axioms wired up yesterday. WOW, I'm really impressed. Ran Audyssey and watched a couple of movies. WOW.
(moving up from infinity SST system, bought them 2 weeks before I found Axioms In/On wall series)

Not much music yet!

2-W22s, 1-W150, 2-QS4s and I have an existing old 10" JBL sub (for now) Room 11'x 10.75' D x 8' H

So this morning I read every word in my confuser (Onkyo manual) for the second time and well, I still need help. Have seen some of this in the forum before, but did searches and can't find it again.

I'll start with speaker and AVR setup. (and leave audio formats and audio settings for another post \:\) , new to getting into the audio details ).

I went into my AVR setup this morning and here are the settings after running Audyssey ( I don't know anything about this stuff)

(My sub has Low Pass, High Pass and Phase. I set low pass and high pass at the lowest 60, phase at 0 Volume at 10 oclock per ALan's article)

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Onkyo TX-SR706 seetings after running Audyssey

Ohms set at 6 ohms

Fronts 80 THX
Center 70hz
Surronds 100 hz
LPF to LFE 120 hz

Checked Speaker distances, all set within about 6" of actual

Calibration levels

LT -5.5
Ctr -6
Rt -4
SR -2
SL -1
Sub -0.5

Audyssey Equalizer settings

THX Ultra 2/Select Sub - YES

Loudness Plus set to off, (I turned it on)

LFE levels all set to -0db

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So should I leave these setting or changes some? If so, which ones to what, and if you don't mind why for the change so I can learn.

Many many thanks

Jeff
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 05:11 PM
Is 6 ohms the highest number you can go to? If it has an 8 ohms setting, use that. The rest of that, I'm going to assume is correct--although I miiight play around with bumping the crossover for the fronts to 90 or 100Hz.
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 05:14 PM
 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Is 6 ohms the highest number you can go to? If it has an 8 ohms setting, use that. The rest of that, I'm going to assume is correct--although I miiight play around with bumping the crossover for the fronts to 90 or 100Hz.


Thanks, I think I just have 4 & 6 for the ohm setting, I'll check it again.

Jeff
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 05:17 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if those are the options you have. Just checking.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:18 PM
Everything sounds ok, assuming you ran Audyssey correct from all the different positions in the room, with no room noise.
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:24 PM
 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Everything sounds ok, assuming you ran Audyssey correct from all the different positions in the room, with no room noise.


Well .... sort of .... No room noise(or house noise, cell phone, etc.)

But my mic placement was limited to just the primary seat spot. My AVR is in a rack across the house, Between the mic cord and the one 25' extention i just happened to have laying around, I could get to the main seat (mine!) but couldn't get much further.

I'm going to pick up another extension cable and re-run it soon.

Thanks

Jeff
Posted By: grunt Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:36 PM
You might want to search or post over in the Audyssey forum at AVS about using an extension on the mic cable. AFAIK each mic is calibrated for it’s specific receiver so I’m not sure extending the cable might not have some effect on it’s performance. Might not but doesn’t hurt to be sure.
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:43 PM
 Originally Posted By: grunt
You might want to search or post over in the Audyssey forum at AVS about using an extension on the mic cable. AFAIK each mic is calibrated for it’s specific receiver so I’m not sure extending the cable might not have some effect on it’s performance. Might not but doesn’t hurt to be sure.


Good thought, I'll do that. That would be a Bi**h to have to pull the receiver and temp wire in wall speakers and reconnect everythiny afterwards to Run Audyssey. Hope the AVS Audyssey boys are forgiving. "I've heard tales of that thread" I was just in there today

Thanks

Jeff
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:54 PM
From AVS Audyssey thread:

Originally Posted by audyssey
You can extend to about 8 meters with a high quality cable. The mic signal is low so beyond that the cable impedance will start to roll off the high frequencies and this will cause the filters to overcompensate.

1) How do I use the Audyssey microphone if the receivers are located 100 feet away? I guess I just need to have a very long extension cable for the mic?
I did a couple of rooms like this. You have to place the AVRs locally if you want to run Audyssey.....if you are using speaker wires through volume controls then back to a centralized location, splice into the volume control and attach all your speakers to the AVR in room for testing and setup.


Think I'll just enjoy my speakers for awhile and then decide if I want to "setup locally"

Jeff
Posted By: grunt Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:54 PM
As long as you don’t say anything less than ecstatically glowing about Audyssey’s performance you might get out alive with the answer you need. ;\)

In fairness AV123 fanboys were way worse over their back before their problems.
Posted By: grunt Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:57 PM
 Originally Posted By: wordgasm
From AVS Audyssey thread:

Originally Posted by audyssey
You can extend to about 8 meters with a high quality cable. The mic signal is low so beyond that the cable impedance will start to roll off the high frequencies and this will cause the filters to overcompensate.

1) How do I use the Audyssey microphone if the receivers are located 100 feet away? I guess I just need to have a very long extension cable for the mic?
I did a couple of rooms like this. You have to place the AVRs locally if you want to run Audyssey.....if you are using speaker wires through volume controls then back to a centralized location, splice into the volume control and attach all your speakers to the AVR in room for testing and setup.


Think I'll just enjoy my speakers for awhile and then decide if I want to "setup locally"

Jeff


You lived!

Thanks for the quote that’s good info. I suspected it would be susceptible to cable length at some point just not how far before I became an issue.
Posted By: Glitchy Re: Speaker AVR Setup - 02/14/10 09:59 PM
 Originally Posted By: grunt
 Originally Posted By: wordgasm
From AVS Audyssey thread:

Originally Posted by audyssey
You can extend to about 8 meters with a high quality cable. The mic signal is low so beyond that the cable impedance will start to roll off the high frequencies and this will cause the filters to overcompensate.

1) How do I use the Audyssey microphone if the receivers are located 100 feet away? I guess I just need to have a very long extension cable for the mic?
I did a couple of rooms like this. You have to place the AVRs locally if you want to run Audyssey.....if you are using speaker wires through volume controls then back to a centralized location, splice into the volume control and attach all your speakers to the AVR in room for testing and setup.


Think I'll just enjoy my speakers for awhile and then decide if I want to "setup locally"

Jeff


You lived!

Thanks for the quote that’s good info. I suspected it would be susceptible to cable length at some point just not how far before I became an issue.



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