Hello other then the qs4 /qs8s surrounds what would be a good alternate? Full range maybe m80s or m60s? Any pros and cons going this way?

Also if it's a good choice to go that way. What about adding the vp160 or vp180 as the rear center and run rear left right off that?

Thanks in advance guys n gals

For movies I would stick with the QS 8's. They are awesome speakers and do the job of surround duty perfectly. I personally wouldn't use axiom direct firing speakers as surround unless perhaps I was going to be using them for surround music listening only.

I would stick with QS8's all the way around for side and rear surrounds. Some use book shelf speakers for rears depending on how far back they are from the listening area.

I have only tried the QS8's for surrounds though so perhaps someone will chime in who has tried what you are suggesting.

Othen more cost and a more directional sound, there is no huge advantage/disadvantange to running M60 or M80 for surround duties, unless you listen to alot of multichannel music or action movies where you may find a bit more impact from a direct radiating speaker at the surround channels; many use M2's for rear channels in 7.1 systems.

The idea with the QS series is to mimic the array of speakers found in a theater. They diffuse/spread the sound around you, more enveloping vs. shooting the sound right at you. If you have a fair bit of space between you and the speakers, direct radiating speaker can work quie well, but in most cases there is insufficient space for proper dispersion from a direct radiating speaker so its sound is more pin pointed rather than enveloping like a speaker array or the QS series.