Can somone please educate a noob?

I have been reading reviews of Axiom products and keep seeing certain models (like the M22 and M60) with "ti" designations after them. Is this a model year thing, or a special derivation for an up (or down) optioned model?

If i am considering M60's, do I want them with or without a "ti" suffix? Any help would be appreciated.

It's a fancy word used in marketing. It means titanium.

You can have them with a ti suffix if you can find them and want 12 year old speakers.

Welcome, Mottom.

Yes, the "Ti" designation is an older one. Very good speakers, and there are many "Ti's" out there. Axiom starting making some improvements here and there, and dropped the "Ti" designation, instead using V2, V3 and now V4. There were no "revolutionary changes, but more of an evolution with little tweaks of the drivers, crossovers, etc.

I still have M60 Ti speakers and like them very much. I haven't heard the M60V4s in a side-by-side comparison, but my understanding is that each generation has sounded a little more refined, and there would be a reasonable difference between my older Ti speakers and current V4 speakers.

Thanks Mojo and MarkSJohnson. Good info to know. I hope to find relatively new axioms to purchase as an entry to the brand.

Yeah, I have Ti M60s, a VP150 (in its box), a pair of QS8s (also in their boxes), a pair of V2 QS8s (in their boxes too), a V3 (I believe) VP180, and four V4 on-wall M3s.

They all sound good.

Some of the speakers with Ti are actually V2 models. The change was in the middle of 06 I believe and not all speakers were marked V2 right away.

Yeah and my V2 is actually V2.46.

Apparently I have to put some of my Axioms back in their boxes and then do some listening! Is that what Ian means by 'blind' testing?