M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains?

Posted by: jmone

M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/23/16 02:25 AM

I know this is probably dumb, but I'm looking at "slimming" down my existing speaker setup in one of the rooms (currently M80s, VP150, QS8). As it is a Brick Wall, I can't go In-Wall / In-Cabinet but I'm thinking the M22 On-Walls will not cut it coming from M80s. So I was wondering if I could get either:
- Custom M60 or M80's as On Wall (but the 5.25" woofer is going to be a problem), or
- Vertical Mount a pair of VP150s In Walls
- Other ideas?

Thanks
Nathan
Posted by: bridgman

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/24/16 12:43 PM

I don't know what your room looks like, but my first thought would be to build some false columns and recess the M80's into them, with whatever amount Axiom recommends sticking out (eg a few inches).
Posted by: MatManhasgone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/24/16 01:51 PM

Or if you want that lower bass sound, you can do the M22 on walls and put in a sub
Posted by: cb919

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/24/16 05:12 PM

Nathan, I think I'd have a hard time going from M80's to a smaller speaker. However I do have the M22 in/on wall (now discontinued but it's like the in walls and on walls combined) and I do think they sound great with a good sub.

What about doing wall mounted bookshelf speakers instead of the on walls?

I would not recommend vertical VP150's. They are designed for horizontal placement.
Posted by: Ian

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/25/16 12:40 AM

Hi Nathan,

We could make you a custom pair of on-wall M80s. You would want to have a sub running too. The width and depth would be the same as the M3 on-wall and the height the same as an M80.
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/25/16 05:45 PM

Hi Ian,
That sounds like an option, I'll keep the existing sub (but put it at the back of the room). Could I get a quote for a pair of On Wall M60 and M80.
Thanks
Nathan

PS - This is all driven by my wife's interior "designer"....
Posted by: cb919

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/25/16 07:00 PM

Wow, ask a question in the forums and before you know it you're getting a quote for a factory built custom speaker.
Aside from amazing sound for the price, there are so many additional reasons to recommend Axiom.
Kudos Ian (& company), you really know how to separate yourself from the competition.
Posted by: Ian

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/26/16 03:59 AM

Hi Nathan,

It would add 12% to the cost to do the special on-wall cabinets. Does your wife's interior designer want a special finish to match the room?
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/26/16 05:12 AM

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the reply....I have 0 chance of getting a colour out of the designer at this stage! (edit I'll double check tommorow my time)... wink but she was happy with "Paintable White" which I see as an option on many of the items.

Anyway, I've got a bit of a list:
- 1 Pair M80 v4 Special Order On Wall in Paintable White / White Grills
- 1 VP150 v4 On-Wall in Paintable White / White Grills
- EP500 v4 In-Cabinet Subwoofer in Paintable White / White Grills
- 1 Pair M3 In-Wall Speakers in Paintable White / White Grills

I also sent an email on the Weekend (yet to hear back) on some replacement parts for my existing two pair of M3 Outside speakers as the grills have rusted and I'm now also missing some completely (they fell off and are now lost).
- 2 x Front Grills (frame and mesh) in Almond Bisque and
- 2 x Front Grills (frame and mesh) in Paintable White
- and 1 Pair of Full Metal Brackets

To help with my budget I'm happy to take any HT / Factory Outlet / End of Summer etc discounts that may be on offer as there is no rush on these parts.

FYI - I have also already ordered 1 Pair M3 In-Wall Speakers in Paintable White (order #10910308) on the weekend as these I needed in a hurry, but I think forgot to specify White Grills... I'll also e-mail sales now on this (I'll get killed if they turn up black)!

Thanks
Nathan
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/26/16 05:27 AM

PS - I'm not sure how to add the Custom M80 or the Spare Parts to an order....
Posted by: Ian

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/26/16 08:20 AM

Hi Nathan,

We will put all this in an e-mail for you including the replacement grilles.
Posted by: MatManhasgone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/26/16 12:11 PM

With all this talk about in-wall / on-wall and ADA1250 amps, it just pushed me over the edge and figuring that I had bought a large enough amp for 7 channel surround, I might as well buy the two extra speakers to get it.

Darn you all for spending my money like that.
Posted by: bridgman

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/26/16 10:10 PM

At least Ian isn't offering On-Wall subwoofers. I bet we all have enough empty wall space to hold a few of those smile
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/28/16 04:51 PM

Thanks Ian - great service inventing a new product! Ordered. It will be interesting to see how the M80 On Walls go.

FYI - In discussing this with my local HiFi shop (FYI - the rep was a Canadian who knew about about Axiom) shop, they said they have struggled to find such product in the market (they had looked at a couple of options but they we either rubbish or way overpriced).
Posted by: Mojo

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 10/28/16 06:02 PM

If you're going to all that trouble, I don't know why you're not getting LFR900s. There's room on the top of the LFR1100 cabinet for a Bose 601 series II-style free space array that fits a mid-range and a tweeter. If Ian gives Andrew a beer and pizza, he can whip out the DSP coefficients on that puppy over the weekend.

I need to add here that Andrew has always had a love for what Bose did and it showed when he was at Mirage and now he's perfected it at Axiom apparently. So he'd love to DSP the hell out of an on-wall speaker just because he's a nerd engineer that just loves to do shit like that. Believe me - I know.

Seriously dude! Go all in or go home.

LOL! Not my money. Heee heee!
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 12/01/16 04:08 PM

They have shipped! Looking forward to seeing how they look/sound next week smile
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 12/08/16 11:16 PM

Just got them! .... and while FexEx took a bite out of one of the M80 On Walls (I'm sure Axiom will sort that out), I've given them a quick audition (note: They will not be properly mounted till next week at the earliest). At first I just tried out the M80 On Wall in place of the existing M80s keeping the existing VP150. My impression is that it was not well timbre balanced over the three (the VP150 had much more apparent bass). Swapping over to the VP150 On Wall and the timbre across the front matched up nicely!

Once they are properly setup I'll be able to post a better impression as the VP150 is resting on a box, and the M80 On Walls are just sitting off the floor (so too low and I'm getting some harmonics off the floor boards as a result).

Most importantly, they got a Thumbs up from the family and take up much less space and are very unobtrusive. Will blend in nicely when painted.

........so far so good!
Posted by: bridgman

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 12/09/16 09:01 PM

I'm just looking back at the dates and shaking my head... custom speakers in 2 weeks. Very nice.

Sorry to hear about the shipping damage... I thought Axiom's new packaging was finally good enough that couriers would not be able to destroy the contents no matter how hard they tried, but I guess the couriers are getting better too frown
Posted by: jmone

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 12/09/16 09:32 PM

Yup about 6 weeks from discussion, order, and delivery to Australia! Not bad at all smile Axiom's packaging is the best I've seen and I've never had issues till now. But obviously no match for FedEx!
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Posted by: bridgman

Re: M60 or M80 On Wall ... or 2 x VP150 as Mains? - 12/10/16 05:38 AM

OUCH... that hurts just looking at it.