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Posted By: twodan19 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/16/03 11:54 PM
finally got a dvd player that did 6 channel and "wires". everyone is out so i have laurence juber guitar noir semi cranked and it sounds fabulous (sp). called aix couple of days ago and ordered more of their stuff. if what's coming is recorded so exactly, i can't wait. thanks to all who explained the dvd players & 6 channel as opposed to just the optical cable. wife still cannot hear the difference; she loved it the way it was without the new "wires". but she has other attributes i'll not discuss tonight.
dan
Posted By: gem41573 Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 12:24 AM
Glad to hear you're enjoying the DVD-A and AIX discs. The AIX offerings are really stellar, and the Juber sounds amazing on the Axioms. Lately, I've bought Silverline's Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band 'Swingin for the Fences' and 'XXL'. These are some great recordings with great music that rival AIX.
Posted By: snippy Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 04:44 PM
The digital cable is still better for HT, you should only use the 6 channel out/in for DVD audio or SACD. The Digital analog Converters are much better on your Yamaha Reciever than on your Mitsubishi DVD player. So you should send a digital signal to your reciever whenever possible.
Posted By: twodan19 Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 05:34 PM
i think that's what i'm doing. i hit the 6 channel button on the yammi when playing dvd-a's, and unselect it for all other uses. correct usage?
Posted By: pmbuko Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 07:07 PM
Yes.

I may be mistaken, but I don't think DVD-V will output via the multichannel out. I think your only option is analog stereo, or digital out.
Posted By: JasonG Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 07:41 PM
A DVD player with a built-in Dolby Digital and/or dts decoder will output via the multichannel out.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 09:44 PM
I guess it's the SACD players that don't. My player has a built-in decoder, but it won't send audio from DVD-V through the multichannel. Those jacks are reserved for SACD multichannel.

I think.
Posted By: curtis Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 09:54 PM
My question would be then why does it have a decoder? If it decodes a DD5.1 signal....where does it send the decoded information?
Posted By: snippy Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 09:58 PM
Wierd, I guess it has something to do with them being DSD circuits and not being PCM circuits like on a DVD-A player.
Posted By: 2x6spds Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/17/03 10:25 PM
The Toshiba SD9200 DVD Audio player requires you to select "audio direct." The Sony STRDB 1070 processor section requires you to select SACD/CD for DVD Audio. The Onkyo TX DS 797 requires you to select "multichannel direct." Obviously, different manufacturers have different nomenclature, but unless your system automatically selects for DVD Audio, you have to coordinate analog direct bypassing DTS, Dolby and other digital decoding or processing. (except for some really high end units which avoid the digital/anlalog conversion which is a puke idea foisted by the music companies to protect them from you making a master quality copy of your favorite music.) Of course, the same limitation limits the fidelity of the music reproduction. Although DVD Audio and SACD sound terrific, they could sound much better.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/19/03 05:19 AM
In reply to:

Although DVD Audio and SACD sound terrific, they could sound much better.


Those damn music pirates are ruining it for the rest of us!
Posted By: gem41573 Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/19/03 03:53 PM
Dan,

If you're around, just wondering what mixes on the Juber DVD-A (or other AIX discs) you've tried and prefer. For those of you who don't own an AIX disc, they all offer 4 audio options: Hi-res (96khz) 5.1, Hi-res 2.0, DTS 5.1 and DD 5.1.

I had listened to all of the 5.1 mixes before (they all sound great--the Hi-res has the best fidelity, but then I have the problem of no bass management for DVD-A), but this morning I used the 96khz Hi-res 2.0, and it sounds simply amazing.

I'm no expert, but I had thought that Hi-res tracks could only be played through the analog cables, not digital. I obviously have the analog cables connected for DVD-A, but I was using the digital connection to my receiver for the Hi-res 2.0 track, and my H/K AVR520 showed 96khz on its display to show that it was getting the Hi-res track. Plus, by using the digital connection, my receiver was able to perform bass management. So, I may have found the best balance for me. Hi-res sound, with bass management as well. Of course, it's not 5.1 this way so I would sacrifice surround sound.
Posted By: twodan19 Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/19/03 04:05 PM
gem, morning. i got the guitar noir and cherly bentine(sp) at the same time. just fired up noir, pressed 6 channel on the yammi, which does allow bass & trebel adjustments. my wife couldn't hear the difference, but i can. called aix this week and ordered 5 more discs; pre-ordered the jennifer warren special edition. unfortunately i don't know of many of the artists. i figured if i ordered the christmas disc i wouldn't be in too much trouble with the wife for spending so much $$$. so my favorite..not sure, depends on my mood. these discs have forced me to listen to my older cd's less and less because the aix's sound so much better. funny, listen to aix recordings at home, and have an risc 6000 running aix software at work; must have been fate. enough rambling, i'll give impressions of the other discs after they arrive.
dan
Posted By: JohnK Re: 6 channel sound & thanks for the help - 10/20/03 04:00 AM
Dan, just to clarify a point of terminology, when it was mentioned previously that your player and receiver wouldn't allow "bass management" on the 6 analog inputs, this had nothing to do with the regular bass and treble tone controls, which always work. What can't be done is sending bass from your "small" speakers to your sub, with the result that you lose some ability to reproduce low bass, and which presumably would be noticeable at times.
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