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Posted By: pbacksport another room setup question - 09/09/22 10:49 AM
hi all - i still use my m22 bookshelves, vp150 center, and qs8 surrounds from way back in 2004. i had an svs 20-39pci that died a few years back and i replaced it with a junk polk psw10 in a pinch. anyways i'm back into this now that i moved and am setting it all up. i upgraded the sub to a svs pb1000 pro and the receiver to an onkyo tx-sr393.

it's been so long since i've done any of this, but my first attempt doesnt sound great. i realize everyone's room is different and all that, but i'm looking for opinions.. room is 20x16x8, carpeted. havent gone the atmos route yet but thinking about it.. i cant justify that if i can't get this current setup sounding better.

it sounds muddled to my ears. almost too much mids and not enough highs. i'm also trying to figure out what the best crossover hz would be here too.. i'm lost.
Posted By: Mojo Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 12:31 PM
Make sure the tweeters on the speakers are still good.

Set up the Onk's mic and let AccuEQ take care of it for you.
Posted By: Hambrabi Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 02:56 PM
I'll second using AccuEQ to calibrate your setup. I have the same receiver, and I've come to trust it's default recommendations. It might not be as sophisticated as the premium room correction software, but it's definitely a value-added service.
Posted By: pbacksport Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 04:14 PM
Hi All. i did run this twice but lfe just wasn't where i wanted it to be. i'll try it again and maybe just tweak the svs...

thanks!
Posted By: Mojo Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 05:13 PM
Run AccuEQ without the sub in the picture.
Posted By: pbacksport Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 05:36 PM
seriously? i did run it again and it's just not giving me that chest thumping bass that i know the pb 1000 pro can do.. it's pretty weak actually.

i set the crossover to 90hz for front, center, and surrounds and bumped up the level to +3 on sub. little better but still not that deep
Posted By: Mojo Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 05:42 PM
Did you run AccuEQ without the sub?
Posted By: pbacksport Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 05:44 PM
no i did not do that. i will though; thought you were joking
Posted By: Mojo Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 05:48 PM
Not with you. Not yet. Give it time.
Posted By: Mojo Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 05:59 PM
You need to select no sub in the set-up.

If that doesn't work, it could be the sub is not in phase with the speakers. You need to tweak the phase knob on the sub.

You can also try moving the sub. Corner gives most output but not necessarily the smoothest sound.

Unlikely but maybe your sub cable is bad.

Maybe you just need to turn it up. Maybe you need to listen to a piece with good thump. Walk around the room to see if you can feel a thump. Then just put your seat there.

You can also try setting the cross-over to 60Hz to see if that gives you more thump.
Posted By: pbacksport Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 06:56 PM
funny you mentioned 60hz because that's what accueq recommended for all speakers. i upped that so the sub would have more to handle.. anyways, i'll run it without sub and see what's what.

thanks!
Posted By: Mojo Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 07:04 PM
When you up the cross-over, there are two effects: 1. the sub has to spread its power over more spectrum and 2. the higher bass may drown out the lower bass in your room. One or both of these effects may reduce your thump which takes place predominantly between 45Hz and 75 Hz.

It's also quite possible you have a thump null in your room. You may have to move your seat and equipment.
Posted By: pbacksport Re: another room setup question - 09/09/22 08:03 PM
without sub was MUCH better. it threw the m22s into full mode so i set those to 60Hz as well. punchy, not boomy, i likey.

thank you again!!
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