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Posted By: player8 Mono TV help... - 09/11/04 05:37 PM
I recently bought a cheap Apex tv for my room and it had S-video which I thought was all that I needed, but I looked and found out that there is only one audio output. So I only get sound out of my left speaker. Is there any way to remedy this? I didn't know they still made mono tv's anymore. Would a Y splitter work?
Posted By: rcvecc Re: Mono TV help... - 09/12/04 01:49 AM
yes it would work,but you wouldnt get true stereo seperation.it would just be a mono signal going to your left and right inputs,its definetly better than just one speaker
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/12/04 03:33 AM
Well, I tried a Y splitter and all I get is hum. I tried reversing the inputs on he reciever and still just hum. I don't know what else to try. Any suggestions?
Posted By: TonyM Re: Mono TV help... - 09/12/04 03:58 AM
Hello Player8,

Hope you are well. If you have the TV hooked up to your stereo, wire the mono out from the TV to video 1 right channel , then use an RCA patch cable from the Tape output right channel back to the video 1 left channel input, this will give you mono output to both channels with the receiver set to Video 1.

Later,

TonyM
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/12/04 04:15 AM
I hope I don't sound stupid by asking this, but what is a RCA patch cable?
Posted By: bridgman Re: Mono TV help... - 09/12/04 04:49 AM
Nothing fancy, just a cable with a regular RCA jack (the one used for pretty much all audio/video cabling) at each end. Every cable you have except speaker wire is probably an "RCA patch cable"...
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/12/04 09:31 PM
I tried the advice, but I used VCR1 because my video 1 and 2 are component inputs. Did the tapeout thing and I still get hum in either the left or right speaker (whichever input I switch to, right or left). I can't think of anything else to try. I don't understand why the splitter didn't work. In theory, I should be getting a mono signal to both channels.
Posted By: Zarak Re: Mono TV help... - 09/14/04 01:24 AM
I have to do this with my VCR. The speakers only work when using it's tuner, but it is not hifi, so I split the mono signal and get mono in both speakers. I don't care too much about it for TV, so I'll live with it for now. Movies on the DVD is really where I want the good sound.
Posted By: Karp Re: Mono TV help... - 09/15/04 10:38 PM
Are you also using a VCR? If so, is it stereo? Why not use the tuner in the VCR and just use TV as a monitor?
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 03:16 AM
No I'm not using a VCR, but I can get one this weekend. Will it degrade the picture quality? I already have my coax running through my Belkin. My might even have to run it through a splitter as well because my roommate and I are having differences of opinion. I really don't want three interferences between my TV and inwall. Ah hell, it is probably better than listening to only left channel TV...
Posted By: Zarak Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 03:50 AM
Just get a HIFI one or you'll defeat the purpose. I believe a digital cable box or TiVo would take care of your issues as well, I'm still holding out on either of those though, at least until I upgrade my TV.
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 05:33 AM
What do you mean hifi? I just use the inwall cable in my dormitory. I believe my old vcr back in PHX is stereo. I'll pick it up this weekend and try it out. I'm just still skeptical about having to splice the signal three times.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 05:35 AM
hifi VCR. In other words, stereo. You could just run everything through the VCR and put video to the TV, rather than a coax from the VCR to the TV. Of course, that would mean leaving the VCR on all the time, but...
Posted By: BrenR Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 06:36 AM
*sound of screeching tires* Back that truck up.

Hi-Fi and Stereo VCRs are two different animals.

Stereo VCRs record two audio tracks, left and right.

Hi-Fi VCRs record the stereo tracks heliarchally - that is, striped diagonally across the tape, the same way the video is recorded which gives more space per inch of tape (for illustration - take a roll of ribbon and draw a straight line down the length of it, and take another roll and draw diagonal stripes all the way down the length and see which one takes more ink) - more info, better sound.

All Hi-Fi VCRs are Stereo, not all Stereo VCRs are Hi-Fi.

(Hi-Fi VCRs also record the same information longitudinally as well, for compatibility with non Hi-Fi VCRs)

Bren R.
Posted By: alan Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 02:29 PM
BrenR,

Thanks for making the correction long before I got to this thread, and welcome back! And just to be overly precise, the correct term is "VHS HiFi", which JVC developed and introduced, as opposed to Sony's old "Beta Hi-Fi" system.

Prior to the advent of consumer digital recording, a VHS HiFi VCR was one of the most linear hi-fi recording devices available to consumers. Unlike analog cassette, VHS HiFi had no audible flutter or wow, very extended frequency response, and a noise floor (S/N) almost as low as a digital recording. And at the slowest recording speed (EP), there was little or no deterioration in the audio specs.

Regards,
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 04:03 PM
I don't remember what my VCR is hifi or Stereo, but according ot what Bren said, either one will work for my stereo sound needs, correct?
Posted By: player8 Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 04:27 PM
I also had one other question. Since don't want to run my coax through so many interferences, if my cable line was somehow to get surged and I ran the cable through the VCR my VCR would get fried and not my TV right? I seriously doubt that anything like this would happen, but I wouldn't mind losing a VCR nearly as much as losing my TV. Or should I still run my coax through the Belkin?
Posted By: BrenR Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 04:48 PM
In reply to:

Thanks for making the correction long before I got to this thread, and welcome back! And just to be overly precise, the correct term is "VHS HiFi", which JVC developed and introduced, as opposed to Sony's old "Beta Hi-Fi" system.



Thanks for the welcome, Alan... and Ken, you should feel honoured, not only did I pick a nit on this, Alan picked a nit off my nit.

Think I've mentioned this a few times but we had a Betamax Hi-Fi VCR running at the arena right up until last year - used it for security/liability recording of events.

Bren R.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 06:48 PM
Heh. Shows what I know. Not that I've even used my VCR for almost a year.
Posted By: BrenR Re: Mono TV help... - 09/16/04 08:13 PM
I use ours as a tuner and to test VHS dupes and Lisa tapes her soaps...

Bren R.
Posted By: Karp Re: Mono TV help... - 09/18/04 06:40 PM
If you have S-video on your TV, you do not have to hook up the cable to the TV at all. Many VCR's actually have better tuners that televisions do. Hook up the cable to your VCR, the RCA left and right out from your VCR to your receiver, and the S-Vid from your VCR to your TV. Keep the TV on "Line In" and all you have to do is turn it on and off. Change the channels on the VCR.
Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no difference between a HI-FI VCR and a Stereo VCR as far as the tuner goes.

Posted By: BrenR Re: Mono TV help... - 09/19/04 07:05 AM
In reply to:

Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no difference between a HI-FI VCR and a Stereo VCR as far as the tuner goes.



That much is true... though my GF prefers the GuidePlus or whatever the channel guide feature on her TV is that's lacking on the VCR (which has text station ID instead).

Bren R.
Posted By: BrenR Re: Mono TV help... - 09/19/04 07:14 AM
Hmm... that made more sense in my head than in print...

What I meant was... we use the VCR as a tuner most of the time, but she does miss the guide feature when we do.

Bren R.
Posted By: Wid Re: Mono TV help... - 09/19/04 02:15 PM
In reply to:

Hmm... that made more sense in my head than in print...




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