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Posted By: arcticair Sub cable help - 01/18/08 02:05 PM
Can someone tell me if i need this type of sub cable to connect to my older EP175? Or would i get the same results with a single cable? Im going to run a 50ft cable so i just want to make sure i buy the correct one! Thanks


Posted By: skyhawk669 Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 02:13 PM
You should be able to get the same result with a single cable (I'm assuming that you're connecting the EP175 to the sub pre out of your receiver).
Posted By: Worfzara Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 02:16 PM
Line level RCA cables are pretty much all the same (contrary to what the Best Buy sales guy will tell you). Weather you go 3' or 100', it shouldn't matter. Don't break the bank on sub a cable, or any other for that matter. Buy cheapest 50' foot cable with RCA ends you can find. Just ensure the RCA connections are in good shape.

Paul
Posted By: arcticair Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 02:21 PM
 Originally Posted By: skyhawk669
You should be able to get the same result with a single cable (I'm assuming that you're connecting the EP175 to the sub pre out of your receiver).


Yes it will be connected to the sub preout line on the rear of my yamaha receiver. Is there a reason why older subs have the Left and Right input rather then the single one you see on todays subs?
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 03:16 PM

They have L/R inputs for stereo set ups when the preamp or reciever has no sub out.
Posted By: Hutzal Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 04:19 PM
arcticair,

I would suggest going to monoprice for all your cable needs...

They have a 50' premium sub cable for $11.39 plus shipping. You really cannot beat that price...

monoprice.com



I have the 25' variant of this cable, and the build quality and connectors are top notch.
Posted By: Capn_Pickard Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 09:08 PM
I've purchased the long run RCA cables from MonoPrice and can vouch for both their quality and their "heartiness". For the price, they are an unbeatable value.

You might also consider linking a few smaller RCA cables, if yo've got them laying around, with some RCA links (AXIOM sells them, in fact). You won't notice any decrease inquality, but can save a few bucks and feel good about using exisitng cables rather than buying brand new ones.
Posted By: BrenR Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 09:14 PM
Or do what I did and use a piece of RG6 coax with a couple of F-connector to "RCA" connectors on the ends.

Everyone's got plenty of coax around, don't they?

Bren R.
Posted By: doormat Re: Sub cable help - 01/18/08 10:10 PM
 Originally Posted By: Hutzal
arcticair,

I would suggest going to monoprice for all your cable needs...

They have a 50' premium sub cable for $11.39 plus shipping. You really cannot beat that price...



Except that shipping to Vancouver Island starts at about US$25.

You'd need to be in the market for a variety of cabling and accessories before it becomes worth the int'l shipping.

Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/19/08 01:01 AM
the rg6 I have laying around seems to be stiffer than sub coax from places like blue jeans, etc...
Posted By: BrenR Re: Sub cable help - 01/19/08 06:24 AM
Oh it is and will be... it's solid core (thus how you get the pin) rather than stranded... but mine takes a single radiused bend from AVR to sub... no problems there.

And it's something everyone already has... plus 75 ohm rated and shielded... everything you want!

Bren R.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/19/08 01:20 PM
Thanks man, I just purchased two of the new 350v3's to go with my 600 for my large room. Now I have to figure how to hook them all up, and run the cable around the room.

I wonder if I can tuck between the floor trim and carpet so my kids won't constatly pull it around the room, hmmm.
Posted By: Worfzara Re: Sub cable help - 01/19/08 01:36 PM
A good buddy of mine that does custom HT and whole house audio installations sold me these, a crimper, and wire stripper. I am sure you could get these things on Ebay too. This allows me to create custom cable lengths (RG6 and RG59). If I need a cable that is 19.5 inches long, I simply make one at that length. It really cleaned up back of my audio rack.

I would recommend this to anyone who hates the look of extra long cables buldging out of the audio rack.


Posted By: jakewash Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 02:31 AM
You can buy the tools at any good hardware store. I bought mine at Home Depot.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:37 AM
Some people forget that there are places called stores which exist in buildings that you can walk or drive to. ;\)
Posted By: CV Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:38 AM
It's all about the Segway now.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 01:19 PM
Where does one find a decent subwoofer Y-Cable to split the LFE into two paths at the receiver? Monoprice does not seem to make one, that I can find...

thanks, Randy
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 01:39 PM
I just found this, would this be better than if I can locate a cable type version?


Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 05:06 PM

One will not have an audio advantage over the other. I have used both kinds, Radio Shack sells both.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:26 PM
I notice Radio Shack's website offers NXG, Monster, and a few other brands on the Y cables. Not sure they are in their stores though...
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:30 PM

The one here stocks them, also some car audio shops are a good place to find them.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:33 PM
so you just used their Gold series Y Cable to split out the back of your Rotel? I think my plan is since the SMS-1 has 3 LFE out ports, I will hook the 350v3's to that and adjust the freq for best results. Since the 600 is DSP controlled I'm not going to have it running through the SMS-1, just basically use it as an "anchor" as Jakeman likes to say. \:\)
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:35 PM

I don't any more, I have the ICBM now. I used to use them in that fashion.
Posted By: RickF Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:35 PM
Rat Shack stores in our area carry those Monsters and the other brands, I'll go there for hard to find connectors and associated hardware only. Our local Home Depot and Lowes are both now carrying just about most A/V interconnects, cables and etc... that I'll most often need.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:42 PM
I will be out today to Wally World and a few other places, I'll see what I can find.. I also am going to need additional coax for all the subs, and maybe a real long length to reach the 600, wherever it ends up. The 20 ft blue jeans cable I have is very flexible on placement, but was a bit pricey. Monoprice has very cheap/high quality subwoofer coax, but not sure it is as flexible. I suppise the RG59 is a little better than the RG6 in that category...
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:47 PM
You might be able to find RG59F, F for flex. I have used it to make my own interconnects.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/20/08 06:50 PM
RickF, I thought you had to work today? 4 hrs total drive time tells me you only worked about 3-4 hrs?
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/21/08 10:00 PM
No luck at Wally World or Menards, just some really cheap thin guage splitters. Will try Home Depot and The Shack next.
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/21/08 10:23 PM

Car audio shops normally carry them.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 01:34 AM
Strange, why car audio, and not stores that sell home audio cables? Seems more specific to home audio coax applications..
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 01:44 AM

They use them for the same reason we do, to split the preout signals.
Posted By: jakewash Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 02:59 AM
And running 2 or more subs in the auto audio industry has been around for some time now.
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 03:09 AM

Bingo \:\)
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 04:04 AM
Not in the good old Alpine Camaro days for me, all this boomy crap is more iritating than audio in my book.
Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 04:10 AM

Randy, I run dual 12s in a standard cab S10 and it is far from boomy. You can not even hear my subs with the windows rolled up.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 04:24 AM
That is because they are omni directional, ha ha \:\)
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Sub cable help - 01/22/08 04:10 PM
I picked one of these up today, now just have to wait on my subs and some additional sub cable from monoprice. \:\)


Posted By: aham23 Re: Sub cable help - 01/26/08 03:18 PM
 Originally Posted By: Worfzara
A good buddy of mine that does custom HT and whole house audio installations sold me these, a crimper, and wire stripper. I am sure you could get these things on Ebay too. This allows me to create custom cable lengths (RG6 and RG59). If I need a cable that is 19.5 inches long, I simply make one at that length. It really cleaned up back of my audio rack.

I would recommend this to anyone who hates the look of extra long cables buldging out of the audio rack.



so i ran the coax for my sub, but am a bit confused on what end to purchase. i know i need an rca plug to crimp on the rg6, but not sure which one.

will this work? BNC Jack/RCA Plug Adaptor.


thanks.

Posted By: Wid Re: Sub cable help - 01/26/08 04:03 PM

You will want something more like this


Posted By: aham23 Re: Sub cable help - 01/27/08 08:37 PM


do these types of ends get crimped down or just twisted on to the coax?
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Sub cable help - 01/27/08 08:55 PM
Those look like they just get attached to coax.
Posted By: JohnK Re: Sub cable help - 01/28/08 03:21 AM
No, it looks like the ones that you're pictured require an F-connector to already be on the end of the coax(which is probably what Ken meant). The little pin on the F-connector fits into the little opening shown on those connectors; the bare coax wire doesn't fit into them.

An RCA crimp-on connector such as Rick pictured can be used on the coax, or you can put an F-connector on the end of the coax and then plug it into a separate F to RCA connector, similar to some of those that you pictured.
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