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Posted By: metier ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/14/03 09:54 PM
If you get DVD-A/SACD player, do you need a receiver that has a sacd input or can you connect this to your current receiver with a digital audio/video cable. If so what would be the differance between this and having a receiver with a SACD input.

metier
Posted By: sushi Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/14/03 10:35 PM
Yes, you can connect a DVD-A/SACD player to a receiver that does not have the multi-channel (5.1) analog inputs via the "traditional" coaxial or optical digital cable (S/PDIF connection). However, you will NOT be able to hear the high-resolution audio material recorded in these media -- all you can hear is the materials "co-recorded" on DVD-As/SACDs in the traditional digital formats (with lesser sound quality).

In order to listen to high-resolution audio, the DVD-A/SACD player has to be connected to the receiver via six analog cables, or via the new i.Link/FireWire digital connection, the budding industry standard for digitally hooking up DVD-A/SACD players.
Posted By: mhorgel Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/14/03 10:38 PM
Metier;

If you get a SACD/DVD-A player, you will need a receiver with analog 5.1 inputs, unless your receiver and player have a fire wire connector. These are usually called "multi-channel in" on the rear panel of your receiver. My understanding of this is that the digital connection between the player and receiver (fiberoptic or coaxial) cannot handle the bandwidth of 6 channel high resolution sound. This is not explained well anywhere, and I had to figure a lot of it out for myself when I got my DVD-A player (of course, that was before I found this board!). Just make sure that when you buy your DVD-A/SACD player, you buy 3 sets of high quality stereo RCA cables, or you will be awfully disappointed when you tear open that box and realize you have to make another trip to the store.

Mark
Posted By: Semi_On Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/15/03 01:05 AM
In reply to:

My understanding of this is that the digital connection between the player and receiver (fiberoptic or coaxial) cannot handle the bandwidth of 6 channel high resolution sound. This is not explained well anywhere, and I had to figure a lot of it out for myself when I got my DVD-A player (of course, that was before I found this board!).




That's exactly it.
Posted By: metier Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/15/03 11:30 PM
Thanks, for the info. That cleared things up for me.
Posted By: KCSkins Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/15/03 11:53 PM
That's really helpful to know, seeing that I'm starting to price DVD-a/SACD players now. I'm quite sure that my older Adcom dig. unit won't have input connections described above. Maybe I need to start thinking about upgrading the entire system, opposed to just the DVD player now. Thankfully, I don't have any kids, so they won't be upset when I go spend their college fund on new audio gear.

But this does lead me to another question about HDCD reproduction, which I'm going to open a post about now.

Posted By: sushi Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 12:43 PM
Kevin, if I were to update the entire system now, I would definitely go with an i.Link/FireWire-savvy player and receiver. I know that at least Pioneer, Sony and Yamaha have already released, or will soon release, such products.
Posted By: Surfaday Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 03:50 PM
Has anyone tried the Pioneer DV-563A Universal player? Its $179 at Compusa and on the web. It plays sacd and dvd-a. (Tell me, does a regular dvd player play dvd-a?)
Posted By: spiffnme Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 03:54 PM
That Pioneer unit is considered a heck of a bargain. Certainly not "top-of-the-line", but for the price it does everything well.

No...not all DVD players can play DVD-A.
Posted By: twodan19 Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 04:07 PM
recently purchased a mits dd8040 which has the analog outputs and finally got cables monday night. i was blown away to hear the difference between the 6 cables and the optical cable. went rushing to my wife to have her listen to the difference but was told, later...law & order was just starting, man. wait til she see the other discs i just ordered from aix. well, it will take a few weeks til the card bill arrives. good bottle of wine is in order to soften the blow(s).
dan
Posted By: JohnnyCasaba Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 04:09 PM
Surfaday,

I had the 563a for a short time in August, I returned it because the BM x-over in the player I thought was to high. Just read this post http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163895 yesterday, might be of some interest to you. That said, people with analog BM in their AVR or who have added an ICBM seem to be pretty happy with this player. Best Buy carries this player, so with their great return policy, you have 30 days to try it out for yourself with no cost to you, unlike CompUSA that charges an open box fee.
Posted By: curtis Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 04:22 PM
Yeah....I'm with Johnny on this.

I am lucky enough to have BM on my 5.1 inputs. With that, the 563a is a great buy!
Posted By: mhorgel Re: ?? on DVD-A/sacd player - 10/16/03 11:49 PM
And what about the Pioneer Elite 45a? They can be had for as little as $308 on the web. Sounds like a great deal to me.

Mark
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