In reply to:I think you're confusing power side and signal side here. When he says "no more juice" he means on the power side of the amp circuit, not the signal side. When the power side sags, you end up with a distorted signal....because there's no more juice...
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So, if there is no more juice than why is there a concern of blowing the speaker?
In reply to:Except all 50W pushes aren't created equal. As clipping increases, the wave starts to resemble a pulse (or square) wave... the best naturally occuring type of wave to freeze voice coils. You can probably push a 400W rated speaker many times past it's rating with a 200Hz sine wave, feed the same speaker a fast pulse and it'll do a Vesuvius impression rather quickly.If you have a 300 W or 400 W rated speaker what harm can be done from a 50W amplifier? A 50W amplifier can not put out more than 50W, period. The speaker woun't even break a sweat.
In reply to:You do have a point here, indirectly. A higher (amp rating:speaker rating) ratio will either increase the damage done in a period of time, or drop the period of time required to do the damage.A real danger comes from 'matching' amplifier and speaker. For instance, if you have a 200W rated speaker and 200W amplifier than you have to watch for clipping.
In reply to:Again, everyone's picking on you, and I don't want to add to that, but it looks like you bring up good points, then aim them at the wrong targets.The danger is that by driving an amp to clipping the overall power increases and exceeds the amp rms rated power. That, in turn increases the power in high f which delivered to tweeters. The wave distortion by itself has only a small contribution.
In reply to:Wandering mathematician?Interesting discussion. Spent quite some time today doing Fourier analysis. I've forgotten so much since college
In reply to:Whoops, I missed that part of his post.You're insinuating a bias that I don't think exists.
In reply to:Whoops... got mixed up in the rest of this and forgot about you. Much love, man. That's 9dB of gain added in order to clip to that level, by the way.That link you sent, BrenR, is most like what I hear only louder.
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Third, there is no DC componet that results from clipping. It's at worst a square wave
In reply to:of your own voice?I think I'll just go back to enjoying the sound