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#416183 - 01/02/16 09:10 AM Re: wine thread ***** [Re: fredk]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7718
Loc: Canada
I'm the last guy you would ask about food and wine pairings but...

I have partial bottle of 2010 Monte Antico Toscana in the fridge and I felt like a glass of wine late last night. I don't usually drink full bodied reds on their own, so I decided to pair it with a bit of Red Dragon mustard and ale cheddar (Welsh Y Fenni).

The mustard/cheddar bite of this cheese was perfect for the wine.

If you can find this cheese, I highly recommend it even on its own.

The
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#416255 - 01/04/16 03:15 PM Re: wine thread [Re: fredk]
chesseroo Offline
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Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 5117
Loc: western canada
Originally Posted By fredk
I gots a new toy. grin

But ...

... its empty cry

Storing wine in the hall closet is fine all winter, but it gets rather warm in the summer. I sometimes find myself holding back on a wine I really like because I don't know how long it will hold.

First world problem solved. smile

Edit: that screaming red wine on the top shelf is cranberry. My daughter loves it, but I find it too tart/acidic for strait up drinking. It does, however, apparently make a very good mulled wine. I'll let you know Sunday.


I have complete certainty you will fill it in due time.
We started with plain wood racking from CanTire. Nice little pine set that held 15 bottles. We then added a second one to increase our holdings to 30 bottles.
We never seemed to have enough storage.
Then we moved and built a cellar holding over 700 (and cost about the same as buying a 300 bottle specialty wine cooler).
I will never fill that one!

The temperature control is by far the largest variable to want to maintain consistently to ensure you keep and/or age your wines with less guessing as to whether they are turning to vinegar or have cork failures with seasonally fluctuating storage conditions.
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#416268 - 01/04/16 10:03 PM Re: wine thread [Re: chesseroo]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7718
Loc: Canada
Yeah, I don't think I'll have any trouble filling it.

Temperature stability might be a bit of a challenge with this unit though. I did the usual reading/searching blitz on the internets before buying, and not one source raised the issue of temperature stability in these coolers. A number of sites even recommended the Danby as a good inexpensive starter.

Turns out this thing is a mini fridge with wine racking. It ranges up and down 10 degrees each cooling cycle. Silly me thinking that a lack of mention of this most critical parameter in any of the reviews meant that temp stability was not issue in any wine cooler.

The first thing I did was take my DOT thermometer and set it up in the fridge. I wanted to know what the top to bottom variation might be in this cooler (also about 10 degrees).

Now I'm curious to know how that might affect the wine, so I've concocted a little experiment using a cork, old wind bottle and my temp probe. Put water in bottle and cork. Shove probe through cork, place bottle in cooler and measure. Unfortunately the thermometer's resolution is only 1 degree so it won't be as accurate a measure of temperature change as I would like, but still it will tell me something.
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#416322 - 01/07/16 12:16 PM Re: wine thread [Re: michael_d]
chesseroo Offline
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Registered: 05/13/02
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I would be curious to see if the cooler has that much of an internal swing in temps.
Our cellar runs +/- 2C such that the bottles won't change in temp before the unit kicks on again.
I hold the cellar at 14-16C. The cooling unit can do as low as 12 and as high as 18C.

Our unit is a few years older but is a Koolspace brand similar to this model:
http://www.rosehillwinecellars.com/kools...53unai98p8b4a93

Your experiment to put a probe through a cork into a bottle and measure high and low max values is sound.
Test at both the top and bottom racks as well.



Edited by chesseroo (01/07/16 12:17 PM)
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#416325 - 01/07/16 12:36 PM Re: wine thread [Re: chesseroo]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7718
Loc: Canada
I put the bottle in the night before last and let the internal temp stabilize. From monitoring last night, it appears to move between 56 and 57F, so it appears there is some temperature variation in the bottle. I'm going to check it again tonight to verify and then move it to the bottom shelf.

I've found a relatively cheap temperature controller ($26) that is used by beer home brewers. It has a built in 10 amp relay that may be OK for this fridge. It also has a cycle delay circuit that you can vary between 3 and 10 minutes, to protect your compressor from cycling on too quickly.

I would be happier if the relay was 15 amps as power draw on startup for a compressor motor can be quite high.
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