In that case, he need at least two more pairs or M60s to suck up all that extra power.
The explanation does still apply to his example and he still dosn't need an ouboard amp.
After reading months and months worth of posts, I find myself pining for a 3808, bad manual and all.
fredk, I'm enjoying my 3808 quite a lot. I have a Diskstation and a HP Mediavault for external storage but they also have built in media servers. I was pleasantly surprised when I hit the Net/USB button, got the menu and saw that the 3808 automatically recognized both music servers and I can play music fron either. It also recognized a music foler on my regular computer and I can play music from there also
I really like the streaming Internet radio stations from all over the world. Some of them have excellent sound quality. I've never had a Denon product before and was kind of worried about the sound quality but with everyone's help I was able to get the settings right and if the music source is high quality it sounds great.