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#220522 - 09/10/08 12:39 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: medic8r]
pmbuko Offline
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16307
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
I have M22s, and I'd be comfortable swapping out the crossovers, however I don't have a great way to test before and after.

Edited by pmbuko (09/10/08 12:39 PM)
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#220525 - 09/10/08 12:49 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: SirQuack]
Ajax Online   content

Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6260
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Well, I have not just "magically appeared" and though I've never met the man, am not a "friend," and have had no contact with him since May," I am very familiar with this particular gentleman's creations.

First and foremost, based on my limited experience with, and knowledge of, the man, he is a decent, honest guy. Also, IMHO, he is NOT a snake oil salesman. That doesn't mean you would like or appreciate what his alterations bring to the table, but it DOES mean he, though a little nuts ;\) , is the real deal and not a scam artist.

He has been making and supplying "upgraded" parts for many of AV123's speakers with great success. I have installed his reworked crossovers (or were those Danny Richie's? Regardless, they were not Ninja models) on my front and center speakers (Rockets) and, IMHO, there was a noticeable improvement. This result has piqued my interest in his ninja offerings for my speakers (regrettably, my pocketbook is currently un-pique-able \:\( ).

In the interest of fair disclosure, it should be noted that the Ninja is a former AV123 employee. I wish to emphasize the word "FORMER." He departed of his own volition, in order to foster his entrepreneurial bent by forming his Skiing Ninja company. I was only aware of the presence of this thread because I received several PMs, from long standing Axiom forum members, mentioning it.

Should Ian and/or Amie object to all or any of this, it is certainly within their right to remove this thread. Should they opt to do so, I would understand and support their decision. I only hope that such a decision would not be based on the erroneous belief that the Ninja is a scammer. He is not.

"People generally quarrel because they cannot argue." - G. K. Chesterton

#220526 - 09/10/08 12:50 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: pmbuko]
myrison Offline

Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 1898
Loc: Austin, TX
Good point Peter... To give a more serious answer than my last one, if this happens, like was suggested earlier, it's probably best to ship them to someone who lives near a group of Axiomites so that a comparison of original versus modified could be done (and by more than one person).
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#220529 - 09/10/08 01:08 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: SirQuack]
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Registered: 09/10/08
Posts: 29
No magic involved - it is called email \:\) I received several emails about this thread so I stopped by.

As for the assumptions made in this thread such as someone being on a non-existent affiliate program, I must ask where you come up with this stuff \:\) BTW - if you want to see my affiliate program, please note this page on our website: Linky. The page only exists because the CMS has an affiliate program built in.

 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Ninja, I was not trying to imply that your products are snake oil products, however, as you know there are many such items out on the market.

It is a strange coincidence that you magically appeared, hmmm Woof must be on the affiliate program with your company.

Us as forum members will not be able to decide if this communication is appropriate, only Axiom can make this decision. I would recommened either you or Woof send Amie a PM.

#220530 - 09/10/08 01:09 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: myrison]
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Posts: 29
Sounds great to me. Make it a big party...

#220531 - 09/10/08 01:12 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: myrison]
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Registered: 03/10/08
Posts: 32
Loc: Mount Vernon, OH
For the record, I have no affiliation with skiing ninja, nor have I personally met him. I posted this because he noted to us on the av123 forums that his new website was up, and I thought you all might like to know about the m22 upgrade.

My intent was not so much to evangelize as to notify. I have no stake whatsoever in whether or not you guys like the product. I just heard them and liked them myself and thought others might too.

Edited by woofersus (09/10/08 01:13 PM)
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#220532 - 09/10/08 01:13 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: myrison]
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 11031
Loc: Central NH
Too bad we're talking M22s and not M60s.

I don't seem to have anyone near me but I'd throw my modded 60s in the Odyssey and meet many in some more popular location! \:\)

You'd think I live in the boonies for the number of Axiomites near me!

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#220535 - 09/10/08 01:22 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: MarkSJohnson]
SirQuack Offline
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13353
Loc: Iowa
Everyone in the Midwest has M60's or M80's. If anyone does contribute your Axiom Warranty would no longer apply, just an fyi.

Jack, I was not talking about you.

Edited by sirquack (09/10/08 01:24 PM)
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#220536 - 09/10/08 01:23 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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Registered: 03/13/01
Posts: 818

Thank you for your nice comments on our products. We do go to extensive lengths to make them perfect and it is always nice when that is appreciated. I don’t know what sort of part changes you are making to your modified M22 x-overs but changing the x-over design, and being able to hear a difference, means that you have affected the amplitude response. If you want to send some of your x-overs here for testing I would be happy to measure the before and after amplitude response in our anechoic chamber and conduct a proper double blind listening test. I can post the results of both here.
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#220537 - 09/10/08 01:25 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
pmbuko Offline
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16307
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
Don't mind sirquack. He doesn't even give us regulars the benefit of the doubt. ;\)
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