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#244173 - 02/01/09 03:41 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
Wid Offline
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No, i don't think your missing anything and I too wonder why. If I were in the market I would certainly give the Outlaw a serious consideration. I also like the eD sub, they're a lot of sub for the money.

When my VTF 2 goes south one of my top choices will be one the eD subs. I might just have to look at one of the Outlaws too.
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#244179 - 02/01/09 04:03 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: Wid]
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I agree with Mark and Rick. I think $519 for the Outlaw is a steal. Just make sure you don't mind completing your system with speakers from different manufacturers, and also, some people have an aversion to downward firing subs.
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#244184 - 02/01/09 04:36 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: SRoode]
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I know that in my small room, I don't need huge output, but "deep" is good! And, even without the current sale, two of them can be had pretty cheaply to even out response.
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#244185 - 02/01/09 04:40 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
Wid Offline
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I was just looking through this article which includes the Outlaw sub.
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#244186 - 02/01/09 04:49 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Probably not. SVS and HSU have been distributed and talked about for a number of years. Its inertia.

I seem to remember that the outlaw sub is an oem from HSU.
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#244187 - 02/01/09 04:52 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: Wid]
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What is the "turbo" on the HSU. Is it literally a powered fan to move more air?
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#244190 - 02/01/09 05:20 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: Wid]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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 Originally Posted By: wid

I was just looking through this article which includes the Outlaw sub.


Interesting. The Outlaw doesn't seem like an outstanding performer...kinda middle of the road. They said it was limited to 20Hz, yet the Outlaw site says 16Hz, +/-2dB which is pretty specific.

The article said the Outlaw was a prototype; I wonder if changes had been made since the article?
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#244191 - 02/01/09 05:21 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
What is the "turbo" on the HSU. Is it literally a powered fan to move more air?

No, it's like the internet: A series of tubes! \:\)

Really, it extends the ports for lowered tuning and, I believe, more output as well.
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#244192 - 02/01/09 05:35 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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No, it's like the internet: A series of tubes!

... with little mice running in them, only for a sub they carry bass notes not messages.
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#244193 - 02/01/09 05:36 PM Re: Sub Choice... [Re: fredk]
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Or was it tubes that extend the port lenght lowering the tuning of the sub?
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