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#246696 - 02/13/09 12:56 PM
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![]() old hand ![]() Registered: 05/12/04 Posts: 65 Loc: California |
sealed inside a secondary, isolated chamber?
Just curious. jj
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#246700 - 02/13/09 01:06 PM
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![]() shareholder in the making ![]() Registered: 05/03/03 Posts: 18044 Loc: NoVA |
As far as I know, yes, they are. The M80s are definitely segregated.
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#246742 - 02/13/09 02:28 PM
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![]() shareholder in the making ![]() Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 11437 Loc: Central NH |
Really? I didn't know that....
Cool!
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#246758 - 02/13/09 03:09 PM
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![]() shareholder in the making ![]() Registered: 01/29/04 Posts: 13567 Loc: Iowa |
I'll take my 80's apart and look tonight, NOT>
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#246807 - 02/13/09 05:59 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 06/22/03 Posts: 6789 Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il. |
The M80s are divided into sections. I recall Brandon taking his apart and posting pics.
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#246829 - 02/13/09 08:28 PM
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![]() old hand Registered: 09/19/08 Posts: 92 |
id love to see any pics of axiom speakers guted , if any have please post them . thanks
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#246832 - 02/13/09 08:32 PM
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![]() shareholder in the making ![]() Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 11437 Loc: Central NH |
Rick, you must own a chainsaw, huh?
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#246837 - 02/13/09 09:13 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 06/22/03 Posts: 6789 Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il. |
No chainsaw Mark....???
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#246840 - 02/13/09 09:21 PM
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![]() old hand ![]() Registered: 05/12/04 Posts: 65 Loc: California |
Wonder if Axiom has a rendering of the M60s and M80s as they do with the Algonquins at this link:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/outdoor_speakers.html
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#246863 - 02/13/09 10:58 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 12/06/07 Posts: 7786 Loc: Canada |
I think the original audioholics review of the M80 (~2002) had some pics of the inside of the cabinet.
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#246882 - 02/14/09 07:59 AM
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![]() shareholder in the making ![]() Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 11437 Loc: Central NH |
Originally Posted By: wid No chainsaw Mark....??? Oh, I've got three chainsaws. I just figured "You go ahead first"...
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#246890 - 02/14/09 10:49 AM
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![]() Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making Registered: 07/20/06 Posts: 11677 Loc: Richland, WA, USA |
Chainsaw juggler?
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#246904 - 02/14/09 12:18 PM
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![]() veteran ![]() Registered: 10/13/06 Posts: 139 Loc: Niagara Region, Canada |
the midrange driver(s) are segregated, I believe with cylindrical tubes if memory serves.
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#246923 - 02/14/09 03:17 PM
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![]() connoisseur ![]() Registered: 04/04/07 Posts: 4870 Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma |
About the M80's: According to an audioholics review:
"Let's talk ports for a moment. The M80ti(s) have three each, one on front and two on the back. The midrange drivers are completely isolated from the rest of the speakers via the internal chamber construction. The triple vortex ports are tuned solely for the dual 6.5" low frequency woofers, which contributes to them attaining such good frequency response." And about the M60's: The 5.25” woofer is actually encased in a sealed cylindrical enclosure. This ensures the proper box volume for the midrange to operate and isolation from the rest of the enclosure for optimal performance.
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#246927 - 02/14/09 03:40 PM
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![]() connoisseur ![]() Registered: 02/06/09 Posts: 3466 Loc: Western Maryland, USA |
Now that I think about it, every >2-way speaker I've owned (well, both of them; a Fischer and a JBL) has been constructed this way with the isolated mid-range.
When I took them apart I didn't think anything extraordinary about the configuration. It just seemed the right thing to do. Are there manufacturers out there that expose the mid-range cone to the back-pressure of the woofer?
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#246988 - 02/15/09 11:45 AM
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![]() veteran ![]() Registered: 10/13/06 Posts: 139 Loc: Niagara Region, Canada |
“cylindrical tubes”
Hmmm - that’s a little redundant ![]()
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#247002 - 02/15/09 01:28 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 12/06/07 Posts: 7786 Loc: Canada |
Actually, I would think a cylindrical tube would be a doughut.
Mmmmm, doughnuts.
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#247003 - 02/15/09 01:32 PM
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![]() Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making Registered: 07/20/06 Posts: 11677 Loc: Richland, WA, USA |
You're making the bagels cry.
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#247007 - 02/15/09 01:52 PM
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![]() axiomite ![]() Registered: 12/27/08 Posts: 6873 Loc: It's all about the location. |
Cylindrical Tubes....a new Mike Oldfield album maybe?
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#249991 - 03/03/09 11:18 AM
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![]() old hand ![]() Registered: 05/12/04 Posts: 65 Loc: California |
OK, my tweeter went out over the weekend on one of my M60Ti. Removed the tweeter to confirm it was dead and did notice that the woofers are isolated from the mid and the tweeter. I also noticed the cylinder behind the mid. Very interesting. So yes, I've answered my own initial question that infact the woofers are separated from the mid and tweeter. No "chainsaw" needed this time around as the tweeter was very easy to remove.
Thank you all for responding. jj Edited by CooLJ92 (03/03/09 11:30 AM)
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#250998 - 03/09/09 09:09 PM
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![]() aficionado ![]() Registered: 02/12/09 Posts: 562 Loc: Discovery Bay, CA |
Cool,
If it still apart, can you post some pictures?
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