Hey, I was just opening the door for you and saving you one hyperlink. I'm learning. At some point I'm going to get a decent amp in my room and do some testing. Until then, I rest comfortably knowing there should be little improvement, if any.

You just keep believing that

Sorry PSpee and guys, I know the word sound to make a point was a bad choice of words. So I will try again, The best way to put it is base management, detail, and imaging. I know that the x-over in a speaker doesn't care if it is a watt from rotel or denon. It only cares if it is getting enough power, to little or to much power it cares. Yes the x-over gives the speaker its sound. The only reason I made the analogy of the Anthem and the Rotel with the same amps and the same speakers, was to point out the difference in the base management, detail, and imaging. With the Anthem I had to turn down the sub volume on the sub, it was set different with the Rotel. Watching movies the way each unit imaged was different. The other thing I could listen to the speakers louder with the Anthem than the Rotel. I guess you could chalk that up to the signal path of the Anthem. So PSpee if you want to future proof your system seperates are not a bad way to go, plus you would not have to worry about the M80's dropping down to what ever ohm load. Zimm you could add an amp to your 3808 and your right your speakers would not sound a bit different, base management, detail, and imaging would all be the same, because it is the same control unit. That amp would get you closer to getting some seperates. The one thing that you would have to change is to put that amp on it's own electrical circuit. Like I said sorry that I opened up them worms. Happy hunting PSpee.

I mean no disrespect but the word is bass not base.

Right on, I should of used spell check.

Its nice to see someone lets the worms out for a walk crawl now and then. Its cramped in them thar cans.

So the basis of your point is...?

Gieseman ... no need to worry, not all of us are anti-separates.

Just anti 'leave the nice man alone and let him post.'