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On wall M22 (W22)
#309637 06/07/10 01:29 AM
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I just saw this speaker and was wondering how well does it sound compared to the normal M22? I listen mostly to music if this helps any.

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elsewhere #309638 06/07/10 01:36 AM
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The reports from a couple owners indicate that it has significantly less bass(less than the specs would indicate)than the regular M22s. Unless the on-wall aspect is absolutely necessary you'd be advised to go with the regular model.


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JohnK #309639 06/07/10 01:42 AM
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That may or may not apply to the in/on wall M22s, which were/are the original W22s.


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Ken.C #309640 06/07/10 02:01 AM
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I have the bookshelf M22 and the on-wall M22. The on-wall M22 does require a sub-woofer, whereas the bookshelf M22's will play bass sufficiently without one, except for the deepest bass. (As long as you don't buy a cheap receiver. I originally bought a $200 Sony from Newegg and it didn't have enough power to supply any bass.)

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CatBrat #309642 06/07/10 02:25 AM
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The M22 and on wall M22 have exactly the same specs.

If there is one thing I am confident of with Axiom, its their measurements/specs. They have both the equipment and the understanding/ability to use that equipment properly.

Perhaps issues with the on wall have more to do with placement and room modes than speaker performance?


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fredk #309654 06/07/10 01:18 PM
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I did a direct side by side testing of the onwall with the new power bracket against my m22's. Even though the specs are similar, there was a very noticable difference in the mid to lower bass frequencies. With my M22's I could get by with no sub, however, the same is not true for the onwalls. You really need a sub with these to give you a good overall experience. The smaller cabinet just can't produce the same deep base as the bookshelf. I'm not saying they are bad though, they sound very good.


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SirQuack #309659 06/07/10 01:31 PM
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It's interesting how those who have never listened to the difference swear that they must sound the same.

I was also using the same room and the same wall.

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Knowing the fact that they produce less bass which is understandable with the design difference, do they sound similar in the mid and higher end?

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sebnad #309665 06/07/10 02:08 PM
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I think they were pretty close. The onwalls I tested were brand new, so it is possible the drivers and crossover were closer to a v3 speaker. I think the mids sounds a bit hollower, which can probably be explained by the thinner cabinet, not sure.


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SirQuack #309666 06/07/10 02:23 PM
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Hi all and SirQuack,

I would second SirQuack's judgements of the on-wall M22s vs the Bookshelf version. Specs are helpful but they don't tell you everything, and you definitely need a subwoofer with the on-wall M22s.

The in-wall/on-wall M22s have better bass than the pure on-wall version because they use a larger vented enclosure (the ports are on the bottomside of the outer enclosure).

http://www.axiomaudio.com/wallspeakerw22_main.html

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