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#387795 - 01/04/13 11:17 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Ken.C]
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Two average-sized guys and I drove 250 miles from Camarillo, CA to Ensenada, Mexico in a Ford Festiva in 1994. I was in the back seat. We saw some things on the road that convinced us never to do it again.
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#387985 - 01/08/13 09:19 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Well this is our new-used minivan, if you don't like it, Talk to the dog!

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#387987 - 01/08/13 09:37 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Zat an Odyssey?
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#387996 - 01/08/13 11:45 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Ken.C]
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Yep, 2008 EXL.
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#388718 - 01/23/13 11:01 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Just a little update on our new/used 2011 Honda CRV...

Overall, we're pleased with it after 3-4 months. It's reliable, quiet, reasonably powerful for a 4 cyl(180hp), looks good and handles very well.

The not-so-good;

I believe the steering ratio is too quick for an SUV, it seems more atune to a sports car. On the highway, attempting slight corrections seem exaggerated because of this(we had an older '98 CRV that drove more "relaxed" by comparison). Ergonomically, the seats are comfortable enough but the arm rests (centre) are too high...we both felt this, kind of jams your elbow up, there's no adjustment for it, just flip it up out of the way. I would also have to say that fuel consumption is somewhat poorer than we expected, not terrible, but well off the Canadian fuel guidelines.
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#388729 - 01/24/13 12:19 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
Just a little update on our new/used 2011 Honda CRV...

Overall, we're pleased with it after 3-4 months. It's reliable, quiet, reasonably powerful for a 4 cyl(180hp), looks good and handles very well.

The not-so-good;

I believe the steering ratio is too quick for an SUV, it seems more atune to a sports car. On the highway, attempting slight corrections seem exaggerated because of this(we had an older '98 CRV that drove more "relaxed" by comparison). Ergonomically, the seats are comfortable enough but the arm rests (centre) are too high...we both felt this, kind of jams your elbow up, there's no adjustment for it, just flip it up out of the way. I would also have to say that fuel consumption is somewhat poorer than we expected, not terrible, but well off the Canadian fuel guidelines.

I've found the ride of Toyota equivalents to be much softer esp. in the suspension. You can really feel the more sport like steering in the Honda.

Our older CRV has been a great vehicle for size, capacity and esp. in the winter, the AWD.

Fuel consumption is never as good as advertised.
Hell, Kia recently admitted they embellished on fuel consumption claims.
You can only really use some of those numbers as relative to each other to give you an idea of what cars might be better in that regard.
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#414601 - 09/23/15 11:58 AM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Had a chance to do quite a few miles in my parents '13 Elantra over the past few weeks out west...

The Good...

Economy! car really gets exceptional mileage, engine is reasonably "peppy", quite roomy, styling.

The Bad...

Rough idle, suspension lacks refinement.

The Ugly...

Sight lines, lots of blind spots (front pillars when turning, high rump when backing up, low seating for entry.
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#414603 - 09/23/15 02:28 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Joyce bought a 2013 Sonata Limited...loaded with everything.... and it's the nicest car I've ever driven. I know that's not saying much, but it is really an impressive car. I wanted her to choose the Turbo they had on the lot for the same price, but.....
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#414605 - 09/23/15 03:24 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Registered: 06/20/03
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You guys are awesome!

Mrs. Tuttle is not enamored of her MDX. Too big. Too tall. Now that we've taken The Boy to college, there is less inherent need for hauling people (if not things).

She wants to trade it in... on a Mini Cooper. I... just... can't. Everyone I've ever known has said that they're fun when they're not in the shop.

Remember, our other car has two seats and RWD, so I'm trying to steer her towards something at least not laughably impractical. But she wants something fun and cool. Fortunately, she has no such inclinations about husbands.

She drove a Mazda3 (with an automatic - strongly prefer a manual). Hated it SO MUCH. Same with the Mazda6. Gutless, horrible and cheap-feeling. That's about as far as we've gotten. Others I've pondered:

VW Golf
VW GTI
Honda Civic Si
Ford Focus ST
Volvo C30 (she'll never do it, but I'm smitten)
Hyundai Veloster
Kia Forte5
Subaru Impreza (although probably too slow without the WRX package and too expensive with it)
Hyundai Sonata Turbo (for Mark and Adrian)

Probably need 2-3 year old used.

Whaddyagot?
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#414607 - 09/23/15 03:34 PM Re: Small Car recommendations... [Re: Adrian]
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Loc: PEI, Canada
Fiatt 500 Abarth. Fun little cool chick car.

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