Originally Posted By: nickbuol
Neither is every Apple product... grin

One last retort on the camera phone thing... one of the main reasons i upgraded to the 4s was actually the optics, as well as the sensor.. The camera has a lens with a F2.4! i have taken several photos with it, as well as a couple short videos..

I would feel comfortable printing up to 8X10 with this camera... and MP isn't everything... Thats why i got the 5D. for the full frame sensor, rather than a different body with a smaller sensor.. I would venture to say that the camera in the 4S is the first "quality" camera in a phone... The sensor is a Sony sensor, so other brands will surely have the same sensor in the near future, but will those manufactures spend the same money on the lens? maybe/maybe not..

Point being, take more pictures for us! laugh