I think everyone on this thread should have a SPL meter!!!! That way we would have "calibrated" readings instead of the numbers on the receivers/ pre processors which are almost worthless.

A +11 on my receiver would be very, very loud (if it actually goes that far?)! I probably couldn't listen to it for very long. But, that is on my system.

The Rat. M80s, VP-150, QS8s, SVS PC 20-39+, OPPO, Onkyo 703s, Harmony 880 Sony 60" SXRD HDTV