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and most say need another 18" from the wall



18 inches from corner or sidewall.....maybe!

My 60's were 4 to 5 inches from the wall behind with no problem. My 80s are only 8 inches out.

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EP500 to take care of my bass



I'd get the EP500 anyway! It will change the way you listen to music or HT.