thanks guys thats what i was kinda thinking. I do have a big room 17x17x17 and there really is no back wall, its open to the dining room and kitchen. But just figured the 60's would be just as good as the 80's for home theater with a good sub. Just didn't know if it was going to be much help spending the money on a speaker that is part sub anyways for music alone. And seems like everyone likes the 60s

m80's vp150 qs8's ep350 denon 3805