Thanks Alan, from what I was looking at that is what I was begining to figure. I hope that they do come around with these, but I am not going to hold my breath. Is there anyone out there with a blue ray or hd dvd player that has heard the tracks and can give an idea of the difference in sound between dolby true hd and the regular 5.1 dolby digital?

7.1 theater room
60 fronts vp180 center 4 qs8's ep500 sub

3.0 tv room
m3's vp150 center