Thanks John, just needed some clarification, and i had a typo in the last message where I said i know the M80 is a 4 speaker load, i meant ohm haha. I was curious if you know where I can find these lab tests on the new onkyo's. I'm thingking of making a purchase after the Christmas season is done, the setup id like is the M80/M60 with the VP150 for the center, the QS8's for the surrounds and either the new EP 350 or the 500 for the sub. Another thing that gets me is the dollar, I bought my reciever for 550 bucks and I coulda got it online for 250. Just curious what kind of setup you have and any recomendations or other info that might be of help.
Thanx


Panny 50"PZ85u, Anthem MRX510, Emotiva UPA7, Monitor Audio Silver 8, Centre, FX, HTPC, PS4