Ha ha, probably both.

I finally had time to sit down and get into some of the features of my new 3808. I must say, I'm really impressed by the new Denons. I've never owned an older Denon receiver, though, but so far it is surpassing my old HK7200.

sdmoel, you're gonna love your 4308!

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