Yeah, but the Proliants are fantastic as far as replacing parts go. The desktops (at least business) are a heck of a lot less proprietary now, although they totally rip you off on the video card. Seems par for the course, but $250 for an X1600 w/256MB? I didn't think they even made those any more.

And people say Apple's vid card prices are bad... (which they are.)

I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!